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Iran Acknowledges Espionage At Nuclear Facilities 175

wiredmikey writes "Iran acknowledged Saturday that some personnel at the country's nuclear facilities were lured by promises of money to pass secrets to the West but insisted increased security and worker privileges have put a stop to the spying. The stunning admission by Vice President Ali Akbar Salehi provides the clearest government confirmation that Iran has been fighting espionage at its nuclear facilities."
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Iran Acknowledges Espionage At Nuclear Facilities

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  • Re:Obviously (Score:2, Informative)

    by georgeb ( 472989 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @07:32AM (#33857874) Journal

    It's the believe horoscope predictions become true that is fake. Why you'd think otherwise confuses me.

    You're all wrong. Nothing is fake. The belief is real as well. Unfounded by all means, most probably false, but not fake. Very few people fake their belief in horoscopes, most likely the authors (as long as they get their paycheck). But the target audience does genuinely believe there's some truth to the predictions in their horoscopes.

  • Re:Four reasons (Score:3, Informative)

    by The Yuckinator ( 898499 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @08:44AM (#33858262)

    At least cite your source!

    Tom Clancy, Red Rabbit. Chapter 15 [google.com]

  • Re:Obviously (Score:3, Informative)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @09:23AM (#33858524) Journal
    You are comparing dishes with alcohol in the sauce (which forms an azeotrope and so does not all evaporate off unless all of the sauce evaporates), with alcohol in a dough. If you are worried about the trace amounts left after this, then you shouldn't eat bread, which also contains alcohol before it is baked.
  • Re:Obviously (Score:3, Informative)

    by ffreeloader ( 1105115 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @09:36AM (#33858622) Journal

    Especially in an oven, where is the alcohol gonna go?

    For those people, like you, who have never used an oven, air circulation is designed into all ovens. There is no door seal around the bottom of the oven door, and there is a vent built into the roof of the oven that exits, in the vast majority of cases, under the right rear burner. If there were no air circulation in an oven nothing would brown on top, such as cookies, cakes, turkey, chicken, etc... and nothing would cook evenly.

    Turn on your oven and let it warm up. Then put your hand over the right rear burner and you will feel the warm air rising. For those of you with glass top ranges the oven will vent elsewhere, usually out the back.

    So where does the alcohol go? It evaporates into the air in the oven and exits the oven through the vent, as the wiki article only mentions cases where the alcohol is NOT stirred into the mixture or the dish is removed from the heat as soon as the alcohol is added, and if you had ever made a pie crust from scratch you'd know that the water used is part and parcel of the dough of the pie crust itself. That alone removes it from the wiki list of examples. Furthermore, a baked pie crust is very dry without the filling, meaning the liquid used to make the dough has been evaporated during the baking process, and alcohol evaporates faster than water so it is the first liquid to evaporate. And, yes, you bake the crust before you add the filling.

  • Re:Four reasons (Score:3, Informative)

    by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @10:37AM (#33859122)

    You think he made it up? This has been an intelligence maxim for far longer than Clancy has been an author.

  • Re:Obviously (Score:4, Informative)

    by Muad'Dave ( 255648 ) on Monday October 11, 2010 @12:12PM (#33860122) Homepage

    Fresh orange juice can have as much as 380mg/L of ethanol [sweetpoison.com]. That's a lot higher than your piece of pie. Grandparent poster, do some basic research before you give out health 'advice'.

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