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Election Dirty Tricks About To Begin 942

Posted by kdawson
from the pox-on-both-their-houses dept.
An anonymous reader writes "ABC is warning that dirty election tricks are about to start. In the past, they've ranged from late-night robo-calls to voter intimidation. ABC has a pretty good list of what to watch out for as told by Allen Raymond, a former Republican operative, who was reformed after spending three months in prison in 2006 for pulling some of the stunts he now helps to prevent." To make this story timely, last week someone broke into a McCain campaign office in Missouri and stole a laptop computer containing "strategic information" about the local campaign.
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Election Dirty Tricks About To Begin

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  • As opposed to.. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:17AM (#25284111)

    Clean tricks?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:24AM (#25284179)

      Clean tricks?

      You know, the ones where the prostitute has had all their shots ...

  • Country First? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bombula (670389) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:20AM (#25284139)
    Funny how often "Country First" seems to involve stealing, lying, and trampling all over democracy, law, equality, justice and the Constitution...
  • Already started (Score:5, Insightful)

    by joey_skunk (244552) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:23AM (#25284169)

    Where have you guys been? The ads have been on TV for a couple of weeks. The economy is going down the tubes, so distraction is the key.

  • by ionix5891 (1228718) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:26AM (#25284213)

    i am already getting

    Mc Cain + Palin spam emails

    for last few weeks

    tho im not from US :( stupid spammers

  • by p_trekkie (597206) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:33AM (#25284305) Homepage
    Yesterday I received a DVD [imdb.com] in the mail from an obscure group known as the "Clarion Fund." It was a hatchet job meant to scare people about the evils of muslim extremism.... The shocking part was that they somehow had my full name on the address label....

    The joys of living in the swing state of VA....
  • Plague, not pox (Score:5, Informative)

    by MadMidnightBomber (894759) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @07:34AM (#25284329)
    "A plague on both your houses" is the correct line (from Romeo and Juliet)
  • electronic voting. no better device for dirty tricks has ever been invented

    paper ballots. ocr. end of debate

    anything else, including traditional mechanical voting machines, are ripe for abuse. not because you can't do dirty tricks with paper ballots, but because electronic voting (and to a lesser degree tradtional mechanical voting machines) increases the number of attack vectors by an order of magnitude, and increases the damage a lone operative can do, exponentially

    fox news? plutocrat neocons? liberal media? america hating moonbats? corporate lobbyists? christian dominionists? uninformed apathetic voters?

    make a list of what you consider the greatest threat to american democracy

    nope, wrong

    it's electronic voting. electronic voting removes transparency and introduces distrust into the voting process. electronic voting will prove to be the biggest mistake and the greatest threat to american democracy

    democracy's greatest strength is that it creates legitimacy, no other form of government renews legitimacy in the eyes of its people. it gives the people a real voice in their own government. remove that trust with black box voting, and you remove legitimacy and stability and faith in the government. lose that, and you lose everything

    • Mod parent up (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TheLink (130905) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:21AM (#25284899) Journal
      What a lot of those crypto/security people don't about their fancy fool proof electronic voting schemes is:

      Elections don't just have to be fair, they have to be _seen_ to be fair.

      A typical Joe Sixpack has got to be able to look at the elections and grudgingly admit - "Darnit, my party lost and there wasn't that much cheating".

      Rather than "What's this complicated bullshit? They're cheating big time I know it".

      And the funny thing is - it doesn't really have to be that complicated. Hand counting scales.
  • by shimane (1186399) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:04AM (#25284663)
    With less than 28 days to go before election day StopPoliticalCalls.org has started to see reports in the media and from members that the robo calls have started, big time. You can help us Robo calls are the worst form of political campaigning. Candidates can send them and voters receive them and they disappear into thin air. There is no record. Until now. The internet has made it easier than ever to record robo calls and then put them up for the world to listen to. There is no better disinfectant than sunlight. **What we need you to do: StopPoliticalCalls.org is keeping a database of all robo calls that are made in the 2008 election cycle. Since we are non-partisan, we have all calls made from all sides. Here are two examples from members in the past two weeks right here in Northern Virginia. One is Progressive and one is from the VA GOP. 1--Working Families Win Robo call regarding Frank Wolf --> http://thinkdodone.typepad.com/ccd/2008/10/working-familie.html [typepad.com] 2--VA GOP robo call --> http://thinkdodone.typepad.com/ccd/2008/09/va-gop-robocall.html [typepad.com] **What you can do: 1. Record the robo call. 2. Send the file or link to the file to me at info AT citizensforcivildiscourse.org with the subject: "Robocall Recording: Date, Name of Candidate" **How: 1. If you have a VOIP service like Vonage, it is easy since the system creates files you can email quickly. 2. If you have an old fashioned answer phone simply get out your "camcorder", video tape the answer phone with the volume on, and upload the recording to YouTube. Regards, Shaun Dakin CEO and Founder The National Political Do Not Contact Registry StopPoliticalCalls.org
  • by Rinisari (521266) * on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:15AM (#25284815) Homepage Journal

    We need to continue drilling the McCain campaign on economic issues. Neither McCain nor Palin has addressed the economy in an intelligent, organized manner.

    We need to continue drilling Obama on the constitutionality of the things he wants to do. Social healthcare is prominent unconstitutional issue and it must be drilled.

    We need to continue drilling the media to get more focus on the third party candidates and the up to 10% of the vote they have in some states, especially swing states like Ohio.

    Our dirty tricks--we the geeks--can be to FLOOD iReport, Digg, Reddit, and such with third party coverage. They need to be inundated with it.

    • by PixelScuba (686633) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @09:14AM (#25285707)
      Social healthcare is prominent unconstitutional issue and it must be drilled.

      What? No it isn't. I believe I know where you're going... that States should have the right not the federal government... but if the people decide that they want the feds to take over healthcare... that's totally legal, that's Democracy. You may not like it, but I'm sure that we have the power to let them.
  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:23AM (#25284925)
    I live in South Carolina, and have seen many nasty tricks over the years (being in a particularly conservative/religious-nutball/reactionary state). Of course, there was the infamous John McCain flyer that was sent out to upstate Rebublicans in 2000 (implying McCain had a black love child). But the nastiest bit is the one they've done the last two elections (and will almost certainly do again this time). Republicans show up a precincts on or near historically black colleges (like Benedict) and demand to see people's ID's before they vote, checking every crossed "i" and dotted "t" and generally trying to intimidate black voters or make it as hard on them as possible (since they know they'll likely vote Democrat). They do not, of course, do this for precincts at predominantly white colleges or in strong Republican precincts.
    • by elrous0 (869638) * on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:36AM (#25285127)
      And, just in case anyone thinks I'm making this up, or that this doesn't happen in the 21st century, just go to this link [newsbank.com] (it's a search result page for the "The State," South Carolina's biggest newspaper). The sixth entry on the page is a full article detailing what happened at Benedict the last time they tried this (you can pay to read the whole thing if you like, but the summary should give you a good idea).
    • by Nimey (114278) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @08:56AM (#25285427) Homepage Journal

      NPR did a spot on voter intimidation this morning. They said that a certain state (forget the one) will no longer allow out-of-state political operatives to dispute someone's eligibility to vote, and all challenges must be in writing, with particulars.

      This was done in response to Republican tactics in the last election.

  • by kenj0418 (230916) on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @11:42AM (#25288223)

    To make this story timely, last week someone broke into a McCain campaign office in Missouri and stole a laptop computer containing "strategic information" about the local campaign

    Whoa there... I'm gonna need some pretty solid evidence if you want me to believe that the McCain campaign had strategic information.

  • Another trick (Score:4, Informative)

    by Xibby (232218) <zibby+slashdot@ringworld.org> on Tuesday October 07, 2008 @11:52AM (#25288379) Homepage Journal

    Another one to be aware of is Michigan Republicans using lists of foreclosures in the precinct and challenging a voters eligibility to vote based on that list. NPR Story [npr.org], Michigan Messenger Story [michiganmessenger.com].

    If you're concerned about this, look up your states Voter Eligibility and Identification Requirements on a state.XX.us website. Print out a copy and bring them with you. If you're challenged, challenge them right back and stand up for fellow citizens around you who are being unfairly challenged.

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