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Internet Pranks in Schools 404

Ferante125 writes "An interesting article about online pranks by students and teachers' responses to them. There are some interesting stats that sounded a little hard to believe. My immature side finds it funny and my more mature side is interested in the legal aspects." For the most part it seems like this article thinks pranks are basically just name calling and flaming on websites.
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Internet Pranks in Schools

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  • by xaxa ( 988988 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:34PM (#22546746)
    I think you could get cyber-bullying through instant messaging or email. And WWW: even if the victim doesn't visit a page about them (or a picture "of" them) it still exists, and the bullies will still talk about it. Also bullying through exclusion -- I remember the one kid at my school (around 2000) that everyone blocked on MSN Messenger.
  • Actually, that exact thing happened recently on a site I run. The teacher emailed me and just asked me to take the post down, and also said he didn't hold me or my site responsible. Of course, the site rules clearly state that the posters are responsible for what they post, not us. But still. I'm glad to see that at least one teacher handles this in the proper way (ie, being civil and hating the correct party). According to the teacher, this poor kid is getting slapped with a lawsuit and criminal charges for defamation of character. Oh well, ce la vie.
  • Bah (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 25, 2008 @12:50PM (#22547002)
    When I was growing up, I fit into the school system like a square peg in a round hole.

    I was a lower class (poor) kid that went to school in a rich neighbourhood. To make matters worse, I was way ahead on the growth curve (much larger than others my age), and interested in technology and learning - not sports.

    As an oversized geek I was a popular target for bullying, and was frequently involved in fights that I could find no way to avoid. And as the larger kid, I was generally assumed to be the troublemaker by the glorified nannies we call public schoolteachers.

    The point being - by the end of high school I had become a recluse. The public school system had taught me that the only way to avoid being hassled was to stay the hell away from the other kids and the teachers wherever possible. The system had taught me to become an isolated introvert.

    So I always laugh when I hear people talk about how public school is necessary to teach kids to socialize. I can't imagine how anyone could have done any worse for me than they did. Even if I was educated alone, I wouldn't have come out with and isolationist misanthropic personality.

  • by Critical Facilities ( 850111 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:19PM (#22547446)
    As a parent who recently bought a home deliberately OUTSIDE the Charlotte-Mecklenburg system, let me assure you, these people don't have any idea what they're doing. This school district has been in the crapper for years and years. No small part of my wife's and my decision to move OUT of Charlotte was the schools. You can check CMS's test results [k12.nc.us] or you can find lots [johnlocke.org] of interesting [rhinotimes.com] facts, not to mention things like this [carolinajournal.com] or this [charlotte.com]. The list goes on and on.
  • by DMUTPeregrine ( 612791 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:46PM (#22547868) Journal
    It's not legal to claim someone is a criminal with no evidence, then post posters describing that with falsified evidence around the town.
    That is libel. And some of these kids have done essentially that.
  • by jahudabudy ( 714731 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @01:49PM (#22547930)
    Actually, at least in NC, racial slurs in conjunction with threats are illegal. Hate crimes. [ncdoj.com] The threats are illegal by themselves, but the added "hate" aspect increases the penalty.

    There is a difference in arresting someone for threats, and yet a WHOLE other thing if trying to arrest for 'thoughts' and opinons expressed. That latter one gets scary.

    You have to put it in a historical context. Yes, in a perfect world, people should be allowed to express thoughts and opinions with out fear of the consequences. Unfortunately, NC and other places have quite a bit of experience telling us that it is a short quick hop from threatening someone based on their race to actually harming them b/c of their race. You can criticize someone's race (the KKK is perfectly legal), but you can not threaten them. You can't threaten anyone, legally, but so called "hate crimes" add an extra penalty in an effort to head off things like lynching and gang-raping someone simply b/c they are the wrong color. After 50 years or so of *winkwinknodnod* b/c the victim was black, swinging a bit too far the other way doesn't strike me as that bad of an idea.
  • by jpbelang ( 79439 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @03:52PM (#22549678) Journal
    Can't speak for david, but the stories I have are in this vein: parent comes with child to teacher-parent conference upset at the teacher that child did not get a good grade. Teacher looks at child and says "did you do the assignments?" Child answers "no". Teacher tells parent "that's why he got a bad grade."

    So, the question is, how much bull do you think this kid can get past his parents if one single question from the teacher can shed light on why he got a bad grade ? How much credibility does the teacher have in that household ?

    Or the student who called a teacher a bitch in class. When the parent was called for a conference, her response was "do you have audio-tape proof ?"

    I'm certainly not saying all parents are like this. Not even 15%. But if three or four students in a classroom disrupt, the whole class is in trouble. Computers start to crash. Equipment disappears. All sorts of stuff like that.

  • by chad.koehler ( 859648 ) on Monday February 25, 2008 @04:29PM (#22550166)
    "if the teachers would teach something worthwhile I'd listen"

    If you really are in a high school classroom then:
    A) You are in a required course, the teacher must follow defined curriculum.
    - or -
    B) You are in an elective course, that you chose to sign up for and attend

    In case A), the teacher has limited flexibility in "what" is being taught. In case B), you should be interested in the subject, since you elected to take it.

    In ANY case, a good teacher should be able to make any topic interesting and engaging.

If all else fails, lower your standards.

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