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OOXML's 662 Resolutions 166

Rob Isn't Weird writes "Microsoft has finally responded to the resolutions concerning OOXML (or 662 of them at any rate). The only problem? The JTC1 NBs who are deciding OOXML's fate have to download 662 individual PDFs from a slow, password-protected server; and many have had trouble getting the password. Don't misunderstand the ECMA's intent, though: there would have been 662 OOXML files if they had wanted to make it hard for people to read and criticize the responses. Thanks to the Internet, other interested parties have put all 662 resolutions online in a searchable, taggable format and are requesting that everyone interested help examine them. That means you, Slashdot."
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OOXML's 662 Resolutions

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  • by sethawoolley ( 1005201 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @02:04AM (#21568695) Homepage
    Note the number of comments submitted by the smaller countries that have taken up open source efforts. Colombia, Venezuela, etc.

    Goes to show a few people CAN make a difference.
  • This means a lot... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @02:14AM (#21568767)
    ... especially coming from a full-time salaried employee of International Business Machines, who by cosmic coincidence recently released a product that uses ODF and competes (or tries to compete) Microsoft Office.

    I must've missed the memo that declared "evangelism" as the new corporate-sponsored FUD. But boy, it does feel wholesome.

  • by dominux ( 731134 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @03:17AM (#21569059) Homepage
    the site is a Wordpress blog on Apache and MySQL with Debian as the operating system. It is on a fairly well occupied server, it is actually running in a xen virtual machine. It has loads of bandwidth available, it is in a big datacentre in London. At the moment I can't SSH into the box, I am doing a reboot from the xen admin console (just saw it switch to runlevel 0 - it is running still, but very very slowly.) What settings should I tweak to help it stay up under the impressive load of a slashdot effect? I am going to get more of the host resources allocated to it later (more RAM for a start) but I am not sure what else I can do. I might turn off some of the logging (although I would like to see the logs for today).
  • by dominux ( 731134 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @03:29AM (#21569119) Homepage
    on the site at the moment are the 3492 (ECMA say there are 3522, not sure where the extra ones came from) comments from the .zip file of .doc files of the country comments. About 750 or so (I would tell you exactly if I could see my site) have been classified. I think in my inbox there is a mail with a leak of the 622 responses, I would tell you for certain if my email server hadn't just been slashdotted. I will identify the 622 comments as soon as I can and we can all laugh at them together. I think the general format is "we agree . . . blah blah blah . . . we are not going to do anything about it"
  • by foo fighter ( 151863 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @04:05AM (#21569283) Homepage
    The only thing good ECMA is widely known for is ECMAscript. I'll assume everyone here knows that is Javascript (a.k.a. ECMA-262, ratified in 1999; 56-63 years ago in Internet Years). Otherwise, all ECMA is knowing for is taking Microsoft's money and then bending over.

    By this point ECMA should have as much pull with sovereign governments (and the populaces that grant them power) as the hand written standard for communicating standards via written language I have here beside me that I just wrote.

    That stupidity such as what is demonstrated here persists demonstrates the failure of geeks. I am a geek (for evidence, just ask my long suffering wife who succumbed to my deceit during the two years in college when I became "preppy" and thin to attract a mate; she has since mostly succumbed to the charms and advantages of marrying a smart person who isn't a cover model [such charms consist mostly of being able to fix broken things and provide enough comedic relief to save $50-$150/month on cable TV. Also, as Revenge of the Nerds taught us, we're great at sex because we think about it all the time.) and it is to my personal shame that Microsoft still has a monopoly on desktop operating systems and electronic document formats.

    Geeks! learn how to talk to people and convince them that your position is the correct one. THIS will be the most challenging yet rewarding effort of you life. This is our World War II.

    Doctorow is our Churchill. Lessig is our Roosevelt (the crippled one). I don't know who our Stalin is, but we're probably better off without him.

    A meme is beginning to grow that asks what have we done to live up to the precedent set by our grandparents?

    This will be the legacy we leave to our grandchildren (assuming we as a group learn how to convince the opposite sex to allow us to copulate with them in order to have grandchildren).
  • MS Tools (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pembo13 ( 770295 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @04:23AM (#21569357) Homepage
    Why doesn't Microsoft use their super productive RAD tools to give the comments/resolutions in multiple formats? Why does some (well intentioned) dude have to do all the work himself? I have been led to believe that Microsoft has several hundred employees and billions of dollars, and their marketting people assure me that Visual Studio .NET + ASP.NET + SQL Server are the best things since the invention of the internet. Surely they should be able to slap together a web app with their own tools, _and_ still have a button/link which gives the results as an archive of multiple .doc files.
  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @08:14AM (#21570297) Journal
    Would have sworn it is a comment on a slashdot thread! Way to go Alan Bell!! 3 cheers.
    - - - - - -
    US - 270

    Naming DIS 29500: The current name of DIS 29500, Office Open XML is seriously misleading in several respects. First, it is not a document format based on XML but rather an XML representation of a legacy document format with particular processing semantics. Second, reference should not be made to commercial products and clearly "Office" in the title of this proposal is meant as a reference to Microsoft Office. Lastly, the proposal is no more or less open than any other ISO proposal and so "Open" is meaningless in this context.

    It is suggested that a new name be chosen for the proposal that reflects its goal of representing and continuing a legacy document format as represented in XML. Such a name should not carry an implied reference to a Microsoft product nor should it use the term "open." One possible name would be: Legacy Document Formats Represented in XML. The principles developed from this effort might well prove effective for other legacy document formats that should be represented in XML.

    DIS 29500
  • by dominux ( 731134 ) on Tuesday December 04, 2007 @06:28PM (#21578607) Homepage
    It is very good value for money, the bandwidth and latency is very low, performance is excellent. No way could I afford that level of bandwidth and processor and rack space as a dedicated box. The initial slashdot shock caused the VM to run out of memory (it is doing a lot of stuff in just 128MB) and I was struggling to fix it. One email to support and 10 minutes later they have boosted the memory, restarted the box, sent me a reply and posted that they had fixed it on Slashdot! I would unhesitatingly recommend hosting stuff in a VM from Bytemark.

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