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Paper Trails Don't Ensure Accurate E-Voting Totals 363

An anonymous reader writes "In an new report from the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation they say that paper trails increase costs and can actually reduce the chances a voters' choices are accurately counted. Congress is considering a 'Voter Confidence and Increased Accountability Act of 2007,' which would mandate 'voter-verified' paper audit trails."
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Paper Trails Don't Ensure Accurate E-Voting Totals

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  • Grammar school (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 14, 2007 @05:28AM (#20600759)
    -A- new report, a -voter's- choices.
  • What do you expect ? (Score:5, Informative)

    by foobsr ( 693224 ) * on Friday September 14, 2007 @05:29AM (#20600775) Homepage Journal
    The rest of the board is similar (link [innovationpolicy.org]).

    "Rhett Dawson is President and CEO of the Information Technology Industry Council (ITI). Immediately prior to being selected as President of ITI, Dawson was Senior Vice President of Law and Public Policy for the Potomac Electric Power Company. In the Reagan administration, Dawson was Assistant to the President for Operations. At the White House, he managed the staff and decision-making process for President Reagan and was responsible for three White House support units: the White House Office, the Office of Administration, and the White House Military Office. He also was Executive Director of two presidential commissions, the President's Special Review Board (the Tower Board) that investigated the Iran-Contra matter, and the President's Blue Ribbon Commission on Defense Management (the Packard Commission). During the 1980s Dawson was a partner in two Washington law firms. Earlier in his career, he was Staff Director and Chief Counsel for the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Minority Counsel for the Senate Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities (the Church Committee), and Minority Counsel for the Joint Committee on Defense Production. He is a member of the statutory Commission on National Guard and Reserve, and he is Vice Chair of the State Department's advisory committee on International Communication and Information Policy. Dawson received his undergraduate degree from Illinois Wesleyan University, where he was recognized in 2001 as the Alumni of the Year. He was awarded his law degree from Washington University."

    CC.
  • by JoelKatz ( 46478 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @05:39AM (#20600821)
    I would have much more confidence in a cryptographic scheme that makes it effectively impossible for a voting machine to cheat. This is not all that difficult to accomplish and the necessary design criteria are widely available in the literature. A paper trail doesn't really help.

    The basic idea (and I'm oversimplifying, I apologize) works like this:

    1) You go to vote. You are shown a voter ID number on the screen. You are welcome to write it down if you wish.

    2) You select your candidate of choice. If you wish, you are given a paper receipt providing cryptographic proof that the voter ID you were shown in step 1 voted for the candidate you chose.

    3) If anything goes wrong in steps 1 or 2, complain loudly and immediately. This is equivalent to you not being allowed to enter the voting area or a machine displaying a candidate other than the one you pushed.

    4) If you wish, you may opt to receive copies of paper receipts of other votes for other candidates too. (So that someone can't demand to see your receipt to prove you voted for a particular candidate, since you can get a receipt of someone else who voted for any candidate.)

    5) When the results are publicized, the total number of votes is checked against the total number of voters. Any voter with a paper receipt not on the final tally knows their vote wasn't counted. (Though they can't prove it was their vote, of course, they can prove that *a* valid vote wasn't counted.)

    6) The receipts can be scannable with barcode and groups may, if they wish, stay outside of voting areas and ask voters if they may scan their receipts. A church group, for example, could make sure all of its members votes are counted this way, though they could never be truly sure how each member voted.
  • by Jah-Wren Ryel ( 80510 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @05:44AM (#20600849)
    Just a quick browse of their "ITIF in the news" [itif.org] page and it looks like they are big fans of Real-ID and RFID tagging in general. On network neutrality [itif.org] they appear to be in favor of just leaving it up to the FCC to determine on a case-by-case basis what telecomm companies are abusive and which aren't - no legislation required, and their justification seems to be that some of the proposed legislation has been over-the-top (typical FUD about preventing telecomms from 'innovating').

    Who funds these people?
  • The American ballots are also ten times as long because we don't use proportional representation and therefore get to vote for more than just a political party.
  • by ReallyEvilCanine ( 991886 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @06:58AM (#20601179) Homepage
    You ever see an American ballot in a presidential election year? It's not just "Choose a president, a Representative and maybe a Senator". Along with the Federal level offices there's a multitude of State, County and Municipal positions to fill. Then there are the ballot initiatives; intentionally written as confusingly as possible, just getting through them can be a daunting task. One of the most credible reasons for poor American election turnout I've heard (after "It won't make a difference") is the fear of such an overwhelming task.
  • Re:Worthless article (Score:3, Informative)

    by Oktober Sunset ( 838224 ) <sdpage103NO@SPAMyahoo.co.uk> on Friday September 14, 2007 @07:46AM (#20601455)
    If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let you do it.
  • by amorsen ( 7485 ) <benny+slashdot@amorsen.dk> on Friday September 14, 2007 @08:36AM (#20601839)
    we don't use proportional representation and therefore get to vote for more than just a political party.

    Elections which use proportional representation usually allow you to vote for more than just a political party.
  • by XenoPhage ( 242134 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @09:05AM (#20602047) Homepage

    No it wasn't. That is the entire point of representative democracy, and of the Electoral College. You vote for people to represent you. You are meant to select a small number of people you trust to make decisions regarding government, or choosing a president.
    And herein lies the problem. The ballot I voted on during the last election had nothing on it detailing who was in the electoral college. It only detailed the candidates and allowed me to choose one. I have no idea who's in the electoral college, and I'm not sure it would matter because I don't know those people. I don't have much trust in the president whom I vote for and they've been out campaigning. How am I supposed to trust these electors? Hell, according to wikipedia, most electors are nominated by the state political party, sometimes at party conventions.. How are they supposed to be unbiased?

    While I was taught about the electoral college, voting system, and government while I was in school, it seems that the "real world" is a lot different. (surprise!) If I remember correctly, the electors don't even have to vote for the candidate with the most ballot votes, they can choose to vote another way, becoming faithless electors.. WTF? And I'm supposed to trust these people? I find a lot of problems with the system.. Personally, it seems that if a candidate receives the majority of the votes (citizen votes, not electoral votes), then they should be the elected official. However, as we've seen in the past, that's not necessarily true.

    I have no faith at all in our political system. I vote because I want my voice heard. Apparently I'm not in-tune with popular opinion, though, because I have yet to vote for any of these elected officials..
  • Re:Worthless article (Score:4, Informative)

    by tbannist ( 230135 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @09:29AM (#20602279)
    Oh that's easy. Paper trails are "bad" because people counting ballots are more expensive and less accurate than digital counting*.

    * barring the presence of any bad actors in the simulation.

    It's always the caveats that get you. See these guys are interested in "resilience against corruption". They're only interested in cheaper and more accurate because that's the only thing that supports their position.

    I have to agree with you, the whole article screams "Industry Shills".
  • by Asic Eng ( 193332 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @09:31AM (#20602301)
    The board and the staff, too. I thought it would be of interest to have a look at the educational background of this "foundation":

    Board:

    Cal Dooley - Masters degree in Management
    Jennifer Dunn - BA
    Dr. Robert D. Atkinson - Ph.D. in City and Regional Planning
    Rhett B. Dawson - undergrad law degree
    David Hart - Professor of Public policy

    Staff:

    Dr. Robert D. Atkinson - Ph.D. in City and Regional Planning
    Julie A. Hedlund - M.A. degree
    Daniel D. Castro - M.S. in Information Security Technology and Management
    Daniel K. Correa - degree in American political history

    So in the entire "foundation" there seems to be just one person who has gone through the trouble of getting a relevant degree.

  • by Onos ( 1103517 ) on Friday September 14, 2007 @09:47AM (#20602449)
    You might want to check about Canada before saying. Canada also uses a system similar to the US - it is not proportional voting. We have a bunch of ridings and in each of the ridings you have subsection. The candidate with most votes in a riding wins that riding for his party.
    Why is the count so fast in Canada, because each subsection counts its votes and reports back up. Usually we get the results by next morning and by midnight it is generally known who won, unless it is very tight.

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