Secret Gov't Documents Will be Declassified 12/31 301
mozzwald writes "This New Year's Eve, at midnight on the dot, hundreds of millions of pages of U.S. government secrets will be revealed. Or at least they'll no longer be official secrets — it may actually take months or more for the National Archives and Records Administration to make those pages available for public consumption."
Too many exeptions. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Can't wait... (Score:2, Interesting)
Call it cynicism, but... (Score:5, Interesting)
Hearing him talking about how much fun it was being in a foxhole 1.5 miles from ground zero, and digging out the rad badges and other stuff he kept as a souveneir, then seeing that there is no record to be found ANYWHERE that his unit was anywhere near where the tests were done has always fascinated me with the subject; hopefully someone will slip up and release a unit list for the Guinea Pig troops.
UFOs!!!!!!! (Score:5, Interesting)
UFOs are at the top!
Considering the rest of that list, its very interesting how pervasive the questions around UFOs are. Sadly, sasquatch has fallen out of public favor...
Re:Can't wait... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Can't wait... (Score:2, Interesting)
I served in the Army. I was ready to defend my country. I am thankful, that I was not in the military when this all went down, because it's a mistake and wrong. To perpetuate it is even more wrong.
If a cop was given information that a van was stolen, sure he has a right to stop it and arrest the people in it. When it is determined that it ISN'T stolen, then you say oop's sorry, you don't seize the van and keep the passengers in jail. Yes the passengers and the driver are going to be pissed, but to keep fucking with them is not going to fix the mistake. The continuing problem with this whole thing is that people REFUSE to believe that we can make a mistake... and be wrong ?, just never happen. It's like a driver going down a road reufusing to admit he's lost.
But everyone should have expected this. When Bush debated Kerry and was asked "What mistakes have you made ?" He couldn't think of a thing. Did he not understand the question ? or the concept of being wrong ?
Re:Can't wait... (Score:3, Interesting)
Your own what? Race? A more important human?
Re:Can't wait... (Score:4, Interesting)
I only slightly jest. The concept is the same. Potential energy is a lot stronger than you think. I've been next to an avalanche and I could see how a landslide as such can make you think there was an explosion. The sound is spectacular. Probably a similar idea, only there was no slide, just buckling girders wrapped in concrete falling straight down 1300 ft.
Re:An unnecessary secret is a failure (Score:2, Interesting)
Who decides who is the Public? The elected president, or the King? You seem to be like Dick Cheney, who thinks Executive power is absolute and anything NOT specified in the constituion belongs to the President by Right. Which includes detention of US citizens without trial in Gitmo, and saying to Geneva Conventions : "Screw you!"
It is the paranoid and powerless and weak who think like you and Dick Cheney.
During the second world war, just before the Normandy Invasion, Allied reporters were briefed in FULL by Eisinowher (the then commanding C-in-C). He told them exactly when and where the invastion would happen, but told them it is their responsibility to keep it secret. The reporters cried "dirty pool", but kept their mouths shut UNTIL the invasion had taken place. No One, i mean NO ONE sold the secrets to the Enemy. FFW to 3 years ago, and the families of the troops were offiically NOT told about their spouses deployment to Iraq. They were just told (even though it was WELL known) that they are going to fight abroad.
Switzerland is a land of direct votings and so are a few EU countries. They don't hide anything from the public. If you decide the public is a bunch of loose tongues, then remember three of the five fingers point at yourself when you say that.
May God bless your corrupt republican soul. No wonder you guys had your asses whipped (to full froth) in the past election.
Re:Can't wait... (Score:2, Interesting)
So, I stand by my original post.
Also, it have to be noted that the 182k figure that you're quoting came up in the Saddam trial, which is not impartial by any standards and I wouldn't rely on it. The internationally accepted version of history attributes much less casualties to Saddam, around 55k.
Actually you do owe some things to the world: the USA needs to obey the international/universal human rights agreements.
The world police expression is an extremely stupid phrase. It implies that you're doing a service, while in reality all you do is look out for your own interests aggressively - hence the world's police expression. I don't see why the world should be grateful and even supportive of the USA given the events of the last century of cowboy politics and waging wars of self interest.
Re:Can't wait... (Score:3, Interesting)
Substantially more force the a cat 5.
Peopelalso neglect to relize that the weight is designed onlt to be in specific points, want ot shifter a certien number of degree beyond it's design, it will fall STRAIGHT down.
I have seen computer simmulations of many different types of building collapses, there all pretty much the same visually.
But the most telling way that there is nothing wrong with the way it fell is all the simulations done by engineers in other countries, some of which would love to point out any discrepencies in the collapse.
This is also the number one laymans way of proving the moon landing was not a hoax: Russia would have ratted us out in a heart beat if the radio transmission were off.
Don't underestimate the desire of other countries to call us out.
Re:What do they have to do with each other? (Score:3, Interesting)
What version of CNN were you watching?
IIRC, most of the pundits at the time were doom-and-glooming the US' plans to take Bin Laden from Afghanistan by force. Although they tried to hide it through sheer quantity of verbiage, the underlying message seemed to be, "How can the lowly US POSSIBLY succeed where the mighty Soviets failed for so many years?"
In fact, the pre-Afghanistan protests were what enabled GW to get a free pass (initially) on Iraq from his marginally-committed supporters (e.g. me). Their reaction to seeing the moaning and wailing over Afghanistan soured them so completely to anti-war arguments (i.e. "What war won't these idiots protest against?") that they stopped listening to EVERY anti-Iraq argument, even those that might have been backed up by pragmatism and solid reasoning. That in turn contributed (if not caused) Kerry to lose his bid for the presidency in 2004. If he'd said, "Many wars are just, but THIS one (Iraq) is not", then he probably would have gotten enough votes to flip the balance in his favor. Instead, he let the election get turned into yet another referendum on Vietnam and war in general, and was defeated for it.
Bah. Bush went into both Afghanistan and Iraq without a good understanding of the distinct cultural pressures involved in each country. He got lucky in Afghanistan (taking out the Taliban "regulars" enabled the masses to establish a sort-of-democratic government), but had his ass handed to him in Iraq, where the masses appear to be more interested in killing each other (Shi'a) or continuing their own private apartheid (Sunni) than establishing an even remotely democratic government.