Hillary, GTA, and High School Football

The LA Times is running a really worthwhile story discussing the recent attack on video games in congress. It talks about GTA, the decline in youth violence, and mentions that football actually encourages real aggression, causes real injuries, and is treated totally differently. It's worth a read. Unfortunately I'm fairly certain that very few U.S. Senators are listening over the sound of hype.

Heh. Football...

[TWX]

If the allegations of football and videogames as stated above are true, that would explain a lot about my high school football team. The spoiled brats had all of the video game systems that their parents could buy them, and a 0-10 record on the field...

football

[jasonmicron]

football actually encourages real aggression

well, duh

Re:Very Nice Article

[Ingolfke]

I know for a fact that when I was younger playing Doom I, II and Heretic that it kept me from actually living out my desire to kill demons on Mars and fight the undead. I know for a fact that Mars Demons and the Accursed are living better lives today because of those games.

Foo you on Senator Clinton.

Re:Very Nice Article

[Qzukk]

So, the net result of videogames is that when threatened, you respond faster? Sounds like standard issue eye-hand-coordination boosting to me. Instead, let us address the real issue of how the population of Nazis have been utterly decimated due to kids playing Wolfenstein 3D and being trained to go out and shoot mutant Nazi soldiers 20 times in the face with a shotgun. And don't even get me started on the population of demons since the release of Doom. When was the last time you've heard a demon mating call? I thought not. Clearly these murder simulators are decimating our endangered species!

Won't someone think of the Nazis?!

Obligatory pac-man quote...

[MirrororriM]

If video games influenced us, the Pacman generation will be running in dark rooms, eating pills and listening to repetitive music.

Oh wait...

Re:What could be worse than GTA?

[eyegor]

If they're worried about the sims, then they'll REALLY hate Single 2: Triple Trouble. Lots of nasty, sim sex out of the box. WooHoo!!! :)

No sexy

[Tachikoma]

Violence? Aggression?
PEOPLE!
This is about naughty SEX!

You crush heads and break bones, even allow fights on the field or have the loosing team executed after the game. SO LONG AS they don't have sex or are encouraged to engage in sex.

If we keep sexuality out of games and media, our precious, perfectly innocent children wont learn of it until they are a proper age, like 30.

Its important to remember that raising your children should in no way take time away from YOUR all important life, and anything that goes wrong is the sole responsibility of something else that is sue-able.

REMEMBER! Children are perfect, until they are corrupted by someone else and its their fault. You are not responsible for your children, and should not have to educate, protect, or raise them yourself. That is the job of the Government. Now go back to paying attention to yourself.

Re:Clinton's Real Agenda

[nomadic]

Clinton won't run. She's a smart lady, she knows she would never, ever win. She's hit the high point of her career, and since being in the Senate is a pretty damn impressive thing to do with your life, I think she'll be content with that.

Re:Do-gooder

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos

Football teaches

[Valiss]

[sarcasm]

1. How to work with other people
Ok, you boys go together and slam into that guy with the ball.

2. How to get along with people you may not like
Slam into that guy with the ball.

3. Discipline and focus, with regard to achieving a goal
Ok, you slam into him, and you slam into that guy, and you make the touchdown.

4. Planning and stragety
If it moves, slam into it.

5. Competitiveness, which certainly can help later in life if applied correctly
Now boys, it's just a game. But you better slam into them harder than they slam into us!

Re:Very Nice Article

[zxnos]

...are conventionally described as "thrill-seeking" crimes. Isn't it possible that kids no longer need real-world environments to get those thrills, now that the games simulate them so vividly? The national carjacking rate has dropped substantially since "Grand Theft Auto" came out.

so 'sex-seekers' will now get their thrills via gta. teen prenancy will drop substantially!

Re:Clinton's Real Agenda

[Dare nMc]

> Hilary makes Bush look like a libertarian.
sounds like What I decided happend last time, was that the republicans with bush already had the most liberal person that could be elected, talks about family values, and supports all kinds of more legislation along those lines, and generally along the lines of more big goverement influence in all situations.

made it very difficult for the democrats, do they throw up a even more liberal canidate than bush (un-electable), or go conservitive. Since I was a conservative, I hoped for the later, instead they put up just as liberal canidate as the republicans.

Re:Do-gooder

[binarybum]

c'mon now, she just knows it will take an act of law to help delay or prevent development of more of these "smut games that Bill is so fond of."

Re:Do-gooder

[tuba_dude]

You know, you've got to stop worrying about voting for the lesser of the two evils. That's why I voted for Cthulhu!

Re:Football is worse than shooter games? C'mon!

[sRev]

I don't know...I got my ass kicked in high school more times by football players than by gamers!

Re:Starts of fine, but then...

[pfalstad]

Yeah, in fact, most kids these days couldn't catch the spelling error in your subject line.

Re:Do-gooder

['nother poster]

Yes. You do need to wait for the "boomers" to go away. Sadly they most likely will not do so before the country is bankrupt. They are the largest voting block, and for the most part vote themselves "bread and circuses". Now that they are grown up, the last thing they want is for their children to be allowd to do the things they did. They experimented with sex, drugs, and rock & roll. They had a blast, but now see the error of their ways and won't let their children ruin their lives that way. Hypocrites for the most part. The sad thing is that I am a boomer. I'm at the bottom of the age bracket, but technically still a boomer. And there are times when I feel saddened by this fact.

Old libertarian curmudgeon boomer, free to nice generation! Gen-X, Slacker? Anyone? Anyone?

Re:Republicans sponsored the bill & you blame

[stlhawkeye]

A male congressmember can be an asshole and nobody complains, but as soon as Senator Clinton gets uppity, you all call her a bitch. Where the even-handedness here?

Did you just ask, with a straight face, why Slashdot posters aren't even-handed with their dealings of members of both political parties, and both genders?

Well, I'll assume you're in earnest and answer.

1. Democrats are better than Republicans by the slimmest of margins. Actually, most of us really adore Democrats but since we know they're just as slimey and two-faced as Republicans, we pretend not to. But we vote for them anyway, despite all of our talk of voting for Libertarians, who more closely resemble Republicans than Democrats. When you boil it all down, we didn't get up on time on election day to make it to the polls.

2. Women are weird creatures who don't think we're funny and who can't appreciate the subtle humor necessary to doggedly recite tired lines from British pop-culture trash from the 1970's. Since they shun us at social gatherings (like family reunions and GenCon), we harbor unspoken misogynistic tendancies that manifest at odd times. For as much as we hate George W. Bush, at least nobody of his gender has ever rolled their eyes when we quoted Jabberwocky!

Re:Keep going further left, Hillary...

[Gruneun]

She's a politicians who does whatever it takes to win elections.

I couldn't agree with your more. Interestingly enough, she was President of the Young Republicans at Wellesley College.

The problem she has, and she apparently doesn't realize it, is that most of us in the middle can't stand her no matter what her current focus is. The simple fact that she gets any media exposure is nauseating.

Re:Football teaches

[Hogwash McFly]

6. Sex and Relationships
If she's a cheerleader, slam her.

Re:Do-gooder

[Photon Ghoul]

"think of the children" has typically been the liberal gun banners mantra, not the conservatives. How many times have the gun grabbers repeated the same tired "if it saves just one childs life" phrase?

You're right. The conservatives mantra is "think of the fetus".

Re:Do-gooder

[drafalski]

It's what Socrates was exectuted for, for Christs sake

Hell, I'd bet it was a factor in Christ's execution too.

Re:Do nothingers are even more screwed up

[snuf23]

I personally find the sex scenes in Ayn Rand novels to be absolute comedy. Apparently her idea of love was to have a man come up to her, shove her to the ground, rip her clothes off, rape her and then get up and go back to creating the greatest quality products mankind could make. Well, perhaps after smoking one of those truly fantastic cigerettes they made in magical-no-socialists-allowed-objectivist-shangra- la-land.

Re:true, sort of

[orthogonal]

"And a programmer... have you never tried to lay your thoughts out quickly and typed the wrong word?"

Yes, but it was in PERL, so of course nobody could tell.

And that's how the HTML-producing CGI script I was trying to write accidently became a self-modifying ASCII-text Pac Man game that did DeCSS decoding if you ate all four ghosts.

Re:My tendency towards violence has increased...

[theantipop]

Tell me about it. I've seen enough Jackie Chan movies to know that the little fucker is constantly looking for a fight no matter what he is doing.

Re:Do-gooder

[Rude Turnip]

It's going to be Hillary versus Condi...you just watch. The 2008 presidential race will be known as the "catfight of the century."

To be fair...

[burtdub]

I'm 99% sure that I got my bright idea to steal one of the college's golf carts from hours of Vice City.

Nah....

[cappadocius]

Hell, I'd bet it was a factor in Christ's execution too. Nah, it's because he was interfering with the plan to institute conservative values in a Mid-East country against the will of its occupiers. ;)