Electoral-vote.com Under Heavy Load; Attack? 603
An anonymous reader writes "Electoral-vote.com (and mirrors electoral-vote2.com through electoral-vote8.com) seem to be very slow at the moment. Votemaster ( A. Tanenbaum) just posted 'All the servers appear to be under attack now, also DNS. I added another large multiprocessor but it doesn't seem to help much. I don't this is going to work. Sorry.' Massive attack or just a large flash crowd? Anybody up for some mirroring so votemaster can concentrate on the polls?"
Reader fishwack writes with word that as of 3:46GMT (10:46 PM Eastern time in the U.S.) "the Federal Electoral Commission's Web site is down."
Re:LOL BUSH IS WINNING YOU COMMIES! (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Gad you gave us a link to slashdot (Score:3, Insightful)
So there you have, it's down to Ohio (which everyone expected), or Colorado and New Mexico, which no one expected to be much of a deciding factor.
Don't expect this to end tonight; absentee ballots are very likely to be needed in a few states.
In Other News (Score:5, Insightful)
*sigh* (Score:5, Insightful)
it looks like Bush will win (Score:1, Insightful)
To everyone pi$$ed off - the world isn't coming to an end, Bush isn't Hitler, the US isn't turning into Nazi Germany. Actually I think this country is pretty awesome, and I'm proud to be an American.
Hmm (Score:2, Insightful)
Look, your site just got posted twice to Slashdot, not to mention Fark a few times, and is trumpeting itself as one of the best statistical predictors. Who knows how many other people have it hotlinked (since it had been promoting a Kerry win for a while), and are just clicking Refresh to see what you've changed... That doesn't correllate with a malicious attempt to block usage of your website by hogging network resources in a denial of service style "attack"... besides, it's not like the information you're presenting is all that unique, it's just your opinion after all, an opinion shared by 48% of the voting public. And at the end of the day, he's seeing network load because he just doesn't have the monetary resources that a CNN or Yahoo does to throw another server or 6 up when under heavy usage...
But it doesn't matter anyways, since the content of the site isn't updating today with what we're learning of the polls... New Jersey for Kerry (as he predicted), Florida has gone Bush (which he didn't), which puts Bush as the winnner. His site still reads Kerry, which I'm not surprised, as he freely admits he's a Kerry supporter. We'll probably have it all sorted out in a few hours.
Re:*sigh* (Score:1, Insightful)
I just want to say to the rest of the world that I am truly sorry that the American people are too shortsighted to vote for change and that you will most likely have to endure another Bush presidency... I have never felt so ashamed to be an American than I do today.
Re:In Other News (Score:3, Insightful)
In case you think this is over tonight (Score:5, Insightful)
It won't be over at least a week if not longer. So long as it's decided by inauguration day, we'll be okay.
Re:Everybody hold on to your butts.... (Score:1, Insightful)
Ultimately, I think most Americans believe that America should be better off than it is now and that they are not better off now than they were four years ago. Sadly, most Americans don't understand the concept and symbolism involved in voting against incumbent to signify their displeasure with the current state of the country. A vote for Kerry, no matter how similar his views may be, is still a vote for change and Americans seem to have decided that we don't need change.
Re:*sigh* (Score:5, Insightful)
Choosing to drive a VW bug is not stupid, unless you're going to haul cement by the ton.
In much the same way, choosing to go with George Bush is not stupid, unless you're trying to run a country.
Now, assume that you're sitting at a construction site, with contractors everywhere. Somebody shows up in a VW full of concrete bags, promsing to make a run to get more.
VW != stupid.
Concrete != stupid.
VW + concrete == stupid.
Simple math, no?
Re:it looks like Bush will win (Score:4, Insightful)
When we stop being divided, we stop being free.
Re:In Other News (Score:5, Insightful)
However, there are very, very few stupid people who do.
KFG
stupid wise people (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:In Other News (Score:5, Insightful)
That should scare you.
Re:Does anyone get the feeling (Score:3, Insightful)
One more option (Score:5, Insightful)
Conspiracy theories aside, I think it is just bad polling. Democrats are generally younger. Younger people are generally prettier and look more approachable. It might be a small effect, but do it a few thousand times and it adds up. I am not saying that it isn't worth looking into, but my gut guess would be that it is simply poor random selection.
Re:Take your pick, Osama! (Score:2, Insightful)
this is sad (Score:1, Insightful)
Did anyone else think Edwards' "non-concession" speech was retarded?? He tried to pump up the crowd... but they knew it was over. Then he decided to dance around the stage giving thumbs up signs!!! LOL.
Re:In Other News (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, no, not really.
Why should it?
I think the top concern that people have, even if they don't realize it, is "Is he married?"
Re:Bush is going to win -- now what? (Score:3, Insightful)
With both an electoral and Congressional majority that's hardly likely.
Re:They did hate America's government... (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Best part is... (Score:3, Insightful)
Result: Bush wins.
PS. Fok U World.
You are probably trolling but I was afraid this might happen as the world pushed harder and harder to influence the US to dump Bush, never expected him to get over 50% of the vote though.
Thank you, Osama Bin Laden . . . (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:it looks like Bush will win (Score:1, Insightful)
Bush isn't Hitler
No, but he's acting a lot like Hitler did right before he began genocide.
Re:Bush is going to win -- now what? (Score:3, Insightful)
We're doomed.
Thomas-
Re:One more option (Score:3, Insightful)
It's not even good if you are an evangelical.
Each of these fools (even my Mormon-converted family) thinks it will be their religion that comes out on top once they've managed to turn our secular nation into a theocratic state.
Whatever religion becomes the defacto religion of government (right now it is clearly the Methodists, but who knows where it will be by the time the last of the separation of church and state has been eroded), most evangelicals will discover they don't belong to the ruling sect.
As a result, they will discover that their own freedom of religion is significantly reduced, perhaps eliminated altogether. It won't just be non-Christians who are discriminated against and disempowered, it will be a big chunk of the Christians themselves, including those evangelicals that don't happen to belong to The President's Church.
For that matter, a fair number of people belonging to The President's Church will probably find their freedoms a thing of the past as well.
It truly is appalling how low America has sunk. We really do deserve the political, social, economic, and cultural isolation the Bush administration is bringing down on America. It is ironic that we fought the Korean War and the Vietnam War because we bought into the notion of the "Domino Theory," in which the Communists (the "Al Q'aida" boogeyman of the day) would economically and politically isolate America, until the rest of the world was a part of their economy and we stood alone. Were that to happen, America would dwindle to insignificance
Now we are isolating ourselves more effectively than the Communists ever dreamed of doing, and it appears the average American voter has been frightened enough, hateful enough, bigoted enough, or just plain stupid enough to embrace the policies and the idiots who are doing this to us.
We've earned the consiquence of our own foolishness. I just hope they aren't as severe as I fear they'll be.
Research..........? (Score:3, Insightful)
"We survived an unprecedented triple flash crowd and logged it all," writes Tanenbaum. "As it turns out, two of the faculty members in my department, Maarten van Steen and Guillaume Pierre, are doing research on coping with flash crowds. The research issues include how many replicas to set up, where to place them, how fast to deploy them, and how to do it automatically, in real time, and at minimum cost. To simulate proposed algorithms, you need data about real flash crowds and real attacks, preferably at the same time. And boy oh boy do we have data now."
Re:*sigh* (Score:5, Insightful)
Right. Because if the US had direct popular presidential elections, that would have fixed this mess. [Bush 51%, Kerry 48%]
Face it, Americans have voted to deny their shame. Bush told them that the US had done right. Kerry told them it had done wrong. They drank the koolaid. It's going to take another full Vietnam-sytle awfulness for Americans to change course; they're incapable of seeing disaster until after it's happened.
Re:The Oldest Slashdotting.. (Score:2, Insightful)
According to CNN, your most important presidential were set on
- Will bring change 25% (Kerry voters)
- Clear Stand on Issue 17% (Bush voters)
- Strong Leader 17% (Bush voters)
- Honest/Trustworthy 11% (Bush voters! WTF?)
- Cares About People 9% (Kerry voters)
- Religious Faith 8% (Bush voters)
- Intelligent 7% (Kerry voters)
Bush voters strongly favored the following qualities in him according to vote percentage (in that order)- Religions faith, 91%
- Strong leader, 86%
- Clear stand on issue, 78%
- Honest/Trustworthy, 70%
Those who favored other qualities voted in majority for Kerry.In short, America voted for the Fuehrer, the only difference lies in Bush's religion (Methodist, if you believe CNN) and Hitler's "religion". Both were/are very devoted to their own belief. If Bush is honest and trustworthy, Hitler was a nice guy for a family picknick.
Welcome to our class of history repeating, ladies and gentlemen.
Todays topic: how Germany was converted to national-socialism without anyone noticing.
Strong charismatic leadership, stubbornness on any and all issues, strong beliefs in his own ideologic with a sharp division between us=good and them=evil made him popular. Followed by an invasion of other countries for the sake of own safety, profit and glory combined with a willingness in the population to be deceived made Hitler's fascist reality possible.
Thank you and have a nice day.
Tomorrows lesson: how mass internment and industrial genocide begun in Nazi Germany without anyone noticing.
Re:One more option (Score:3, Insightful)
This isn't really plausible. All evangelicals are a big, unified voting block. They have a commonality of views that cross their denominational lines. If you splintered it, which is what you are talking about you would screw up their power base.
I doubt you will find anybody in the evangelical block or the politicians they elected caring about denominational quibling. As long as its white, protestant, bible thumping, anti abortion, anti gays, anti drugs, anti sex, anti rock and roll, pro war, pro wealth, and pro America dominating the world this group is going to back it and hang together.
The only people its going to discriminate against are the non religious and non Christian. I imagine Catholics will fair OK though maybe not as well as Protestants.
These things should be coming as as soon as the Supreme court and the rest of the courts are stacked in the republicans favor:
- abortion will be outlawed in all forms
- the prohibition on prayer in schools will be lifted and it will become mandatory again in the conservative states
- gay marriage will be banned, then any legal recognition of civil unions. Conservative states will outlaw sodomy again and which is basically outlawing homosexuality and shove it back in to the closet
- three strike laws and the war on drugs will reign and the prison population will continue to swell to the point the U.S. locks up more people per capita than the most repressive dictatorships. Of course thats already happened.
School prayer is the sweeping social change. If you and your children don't subscribe to the Christian faith, your children are going to suffer. Either your children play along and eventually turn Christian or they face isolation and ridicule. It wouldn't be particularly suprising if it extends in to the workplace and business with evangelicals getting unspoken preference in hiring and evangelical businessmen get preference in contracts and business.
It is interesting that in the Oklahoma senate race the Republican candidate was branded as to conservative for Oklahoma and was at risk. For example he'd been suggesting lesbians were taking over the schools and that girls shouldn't be allowed in the restrooms together. He won comfortably indicating its impossible to be to conservative for bible thumping Oklahoma.
As an aside it is interesting to note who is up on the stock market this morning which is a true indicator of who won the election and who will be cashing in for four more years:
Halliburton
Lockheed and Boeing
Drug companies
Diebold (up 2%)
Tech stocks are up though I'm not sure they are the biggest benefactors of Republican pork. Google topped $200 which maybe just suspects the bulls want to go on a little rampage not that the rich will keep getting richer and everyone else will keep getting poorer.
Re:The Oldest Slashdotting.. (Score:3, Insightful)
I have studied the rise of Hitler in some detail. It parallels the current administration pretty closely. That should be a concern. A very big concern.
But I guess you are content in your viewpoint.