Celsius 41.11: A Rebuttal to Michael Moore 255
deezl writes "Michael Moore released a controversial movie revealing 'facts' about the Bush Presidency. A new rebuttal has just been released called Celsius 41.11. I would think that time sensitive political commentaries would be available for download to ensure the widest possible distribution base. If documentary makers are so interested in getting their message out and arguments across, why not encourage free BitTorrent type distribution for their movies?"
Ok... (Score:4, Interesting)
I like how they equate even rudimentary social programs with out of control totalitarianism.
I mean I was a *little* tired of the latest excuse for liberating Iraq, "What you though Hussein was a nice person, well why do *you* live with him?" But seriously, they're making the obvious response, as grim and undignified as it is, look ever more appropriate.
Re:But... (Score:4, Interesting)
He was actually sending free copies of his DVD to any serviceperson abroad IIRC so he didnt "do nothing".
Another interesting take on 9/11 ... (Score:3, Interesting)
And here is a good commentary & rebuttal [freedom-force.org]
Peace
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ALL civilizations eventually collapse.
Or are you that ignorant and arrogant to assume that yours won't?
Why?
"The more corrupt the republic, the more numerous the laws" -- Tacitus, A.D. 55
Re:meaning (Score:5, Interesting)
On an unrelated note, I have to ask why they had so many photos of planes flying into buildings, women in burkas, and the attack on the USS Cole. But all of the voiceover was eerily disconnected from the images. They kept talking about Iraq, while showing images from an unrelated war a half a world away in Afghanistan.
What's the deal with that? Why would anyone want to relate Afghanistan and Iraq?
Someone likes it: $208,877,529 (Score:3, Interesting)
Fact about Fahrenheit 9/11: It has been extraordinarily successful, grossing a fifth of a billion dollars [boxofficemojo.com] on a $6 million investment.
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Bush: Borrowing money [brillig.com] to try to make his administration look good. Are you getting some of the $?
Re:David Bossie (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:You mean it's NOT true??? (Score:1, Interesting)
Any Islamist scholar worth his salt will tell you that Osama would never ever condescend to any kind of deal with Saddam. The Wahabis looked down upon Saddam as the worst kind of kafir. There are those who follow a different religion - in the eyes of the Wahabis, they are just kafirs. But those who profess to follow Islam, and yet break the Islamic code at every opportunity are the worst kind of kafirs. Unlike the former, you are not even expected to try to save/redeem the latter - just wash your blade in their blood. Saddam was/is seen as one of the latter kind by the fundies.
Saddam professed to follow Islam, but his behaviour was that of a "secular socialist"; he did not following the strict literal interpretation of the Quran, built schools for women, allowing them to even go to college and hold professional positions, etc. etc. Most of the time, he would not even show show up for Friday prayers.
In 2002, about 6 months prior to the GWII, Saddam found religion and made it a point to be seen at mosques every Friday. Many a religious commentator in the Mid-East mocked him for remembering Islam only when the US was breathing fire down his britches. They issued a call to arms to all jihadist to "defend thed land an people of Iraq", but they studiously avoided saying anything about preserving Saddam. )
For the Wahabis, the list of Saddam's sins against Islam were a mile long. Likewise, Saddam had always been wary of Islamic fundamentalists (and clerics) and he "cleaned up" the Iraqi fundies en mass (Sadr Sr., a name you may have heard of recently, was one of the targets.) To suggest that Saddam would hop into bed with Osama and his brand of Whabiism just shows your total ignorance about these matters. On paper, they were (are) both Sunnis, but that means diddly-squat.
It doubtless gave Osama great pleasure to see Saddam toppled from his dictatorial perch. To suggest that Osama would have cozied up to Saddam, even to fight a common enemy, again shows that you are clueless about Arab pride and egotism, and its interplay with the political tapestry of present-day Islam.
Go ahead, spin away to your hearts content. That is to be expected from a yankee who thinks he knows every thing, but he doesn't even know that he knows not.
Just Curious... (Score:4, Interesting)
Google's never heard of 'em; AnyWho's never heard of 'em; their phone number is either bogus or unlisted, ditto for their admin email address.
WHOIS:
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(570) 708-8780
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I suppose if I were making inflammatory political statements (right-wing, left-wing, or other-wing), I'd use anonymizers, too. But don't ICANN rules require legitimate contact info for domain registration?
Just curious...