New Bush Guard Records Released 405
rwiedower writes "Over the past 24 hours, several new stories have emerged surrounding President Bush's service in the National Guard. Memos from his commanding officer seem to indicate he was unhappy with Bush's desire to leave Texas, and that he felt Bush was going 'over his head' to get out of service. In true slashdot/military/government fashion, Killian even titled one memo 'CYA'. (The memos, in pdf format, are available here.)"
The Documents might be forgeries (Score:2, Interesting)
From and post from Freerepublic:
Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.
In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.
The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.
I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.
This should be pursued aggressively.
This is a better FR thread ;- (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:True Lies (Score:3, Interesting)
Kerry LIED about some things related to his service some 30 years ago.
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What I want to know is: How does someone's experience as a junior officer over three decades ago have any bearing on their ability to be President of the United States?
I'm not voting for either of the two liars, but if they were my only choices, I'd pick the one that faced enemy fire in Vietnam over the one that played politics in Alabama. Even if Kerry never saw a single VC, he could have been killed at any time. The only time Bush would have seen VC was if someone didn't know how to abbreviate "Veneral Disease".
According to "Bush's Brain", Karl Rove's strategy is "if you make your opponent explain himself, you've won". Both sides are fighting hard (through their proxies) to put the other in that defensive position. To Hell with the both of them, I'm voting Green.
Re:Facts on Bush's Service (Score:2, Interesting)
Examples:
And of course we have the big whoppers on Saddam, WMD, Medicare reform, etc, etc.
The 'th' in the memos is different than in Word (Score:2, Interesting)
Word is this...whereas the memo is...
Are these memo's forged? (Score:2, Interesting)
"I opened Microsoft Word, set the font to Microsoft's Times New Roman, tabbed over to the default tab stop to enter the date "18 August 1973," then typed the rest of the document purportedly from the personal records of the late Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian...The spacing is not just similar--it is identical in every respect. Notice that the date lines up perfectly, all the line breaks are in the same places, all letters line up with the same letters above and below, and the kerning is exactly the same...There is absolutely no way that this document was typed on any machine that was available in 1973.
PowerLine here [powerlineblog.com].
Pacetown here [haloscan.com].
Re:They had superscripting typwriters in 1973? (Score:3, Interesting)
The position of letters are identical. The word wrap is identical. The superscripting is identical.
and somehow, this is supposed to past muster? CBS had an expert look into this - and they concluded that they are authentic.
you, are lieing, and poorly at that.
It is a sad statement that clear, authentic pointed evidence can be called into question because of some conspiracy theory based in bullshit.
Here's the crux of the matter, according to official Navy Records (that were previously "missing"):
1) Killian gave a direct order for George W. Bush to take an annual flight physical.
2) Due to refusal to obey that order, GWB was suspended from flying, AND denied a transfer to the alabama ANG.
The other two memos were from Killian's personal journals - evidence that is considerred admissssable in court - they are not forgeries, despite what someone's imagination cooked up.
Re:The 'th' in the memos is different than in Word (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:True Lies (Score:2, Interesting)
yeh... the whitehouse commonly releases forged documents that slam the president.
you can argue it all you want, but reality is against you. you knwo what they call people like you? insane.
Re:Facts on Bush's Service (Score:1, Interesting)
Really? What was said about Bush that was a lie? That he started an unjust war? That he won't fire Donald Rumsfeld despite his failures to create oversight in Iraq? That he's created the worst federal deficit in history?
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the current presidential administration is one of the worst to ever take office. Pointing that out to the ignorant masses is not a lie.