What percentage of your media consumption is streamed?
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Looks like a slow day on the /. polls... first vote and first post!
My only question is, does offline saved copies of Spotify playlists count? I mean it's definitely "streamed" in the sense that I can't tote around the same cache files and play them on any device -- they're encrypted and not in a standard format, and have to be re-keyed or something every so often to make sure you keep current with your subscription -- but since I listen to much of the same music repeatedly, I don't actually stream (in the s
Re:First Vost (music or vid) (Score:1)
I presumed they meant video. I listen to lots of podcasts, including some that probably had been streamed, but were saved as higher quality files for offline consumption.
So, although technically Spotify is, I don't include it. I do count Comcast OnDemand and stuff like Netflix, or if I watch a Sounders game they streamed live.
Sometimes I just use my giant HDTV to watch stuff live and watch streamed stuff on twitter or some other app on a cell phone (that runs over cable wireless) or tablet. Mostly have remo
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Also the only Vost, as far as I can see...
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Video is for lusers and PHBs (Score:2)
If you're not seeing the Matrix raw, you're doing it wrong, and they're lying to you.
Even my DVDs are streamed (Score:5, Interesting)
Also, my kids would rather stream crappy content from netflix than dig out a DVD and wait for 15 minutes for the actual content to start... With my own content server, they get an interface as responsive as Netflix, but with the content I want them to have.
Re:Even my DVDs are streamed (Score:5, Interesting)
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The process isn't *that* hard, and when you rip movies you borrowed from the library or Redbox, then your ISP, the MPAA, the NSA, and everyone else doesn't know.
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... I don't like the relatively labor-intensive process of ripping from DVD, compressing, etc...
I rip nearly everything to my computer as well. Note that it's generally only "labor intensive" for the computer... for the person sitting at the computer, it's really more of an exercise in patience than anything else:
* Insert DVD,
* Open MakeMKV, click a few buttons,
* Wait.
* Open Handbrake, click a few buttons,
* Wait.
* Add resulting file to media distribution platform of your choice. * Done!
What's more, if what you're ripping isn't particularly popular at the moment, then you're liable to find that
Re:Even my DVDs are streamed (Score:4, Interesting)
> Why bother compressing?
Uses much less space and yields you something small enough to fit on a phone while still being useful for a 60 inch TV or 120 inch projector. Besides, most playback devices don't handle MPEG2 very well. They're all expecting h264.
DVD is a really outdated format and benefits greatly from transcoding.
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something small enough to fit on a phone while still being useful for a 60 inch TV or 120 inch projector.
What are you using to compress and into what format? My phone (Galaxy S3) limits me to a max file size of 2GB. I've yet to find a way to compress a movie into 2GB, or less, and maintain enough quality to view it on a 60 inch TV, let alone my projector without a very noticeable drop in quality.
TIA
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To me, accessibility is more important than absolute quality. (It used to be the other way around, but my attitude has changed after assorted life events.)
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The rips from pirate bay are better than I can do and even smaller.
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I can tell the difference between a 30GB blu-ray rip and a 2GB compressed 1080p h264 file. The thing is though the 2GB compressed file is pretty good. More than just watchable actually even on my 50" HD screen. Most of the time I compress mine to about 10-14GB and those I have a hard time noticing any difference from the original. On my tablet I convert them to 720P because that looks as good as the screen can show anyway.
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The ability of a DVD to be compressed using a different format seems largely to be a function of the quality of the "original". A decent original can compress quite nicely. A crap original will be crap transcoded.
It won't be as impressive as a BluRay but the original isn't either.
Again. MPEG2 is a really outdated format. It doesn't take much to do better (or much better).
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uncompressed mkv file? An uncompressed video the same resolution and frame rate as a blu ray (which is already compressed) would be like 1TB.
I haven't seen an uncompressed digital video file since 1995, due to how impractical they are.
Also, mkv is just a container format. Whether a file is in mkv format has nothing to do with whether or how it is compressed.
Also, why would someone want a file smaller than 25-50GB? No one will care in 10 years, but for now, that is still quite a lot of space to dedicate t
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USC, T [copyright.gov]
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I think the GP was saying that instead of ripping the DVD themselves, they save time and download a ripped copy. So they have a license for the media in the form of the purchased DVD. They just let someone else do the work for them. That should constitute fair use of the media.
From your post it appears that the ripped copy is considered a reproduction and needs a new license. Or am I confused?
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not a violation (Score:2)
I'm seeing some trolling (someone took the time to copy some law they found)...might as well just say parent is right
Furthermore, any individual can record music (from the radio or from a CD from the library or purchased at a yard sale or anywhere) onto any format, then make a compilation of songs onto any format, and give that to any person they want.
The federal government has not defined what a 'friend' is...anyone can give any music to any 'friend' as per the DCMA
You don't have to agree with what I said
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Even cases of fair use involve a non-copyright holder making a reproduction.
Playing a DVD or blu ray movie in a any player, causes a reproduction to be made in electronic memory before it is displayed.
Clearly there are some exceptions, and this clause is not meant to be taken 100% literally.
Linux Blu-Ray rip (Score:2)
I don't mind buying a copy of the content, but I dislike the disc experience as much as your children.
Suggestions for loading my discs into local storage?
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Indeed! The DVD "experience" has made streaming adoption that much faster. When I moved to my new home, I didn't even hook up a DVD player. I figured I had a PC hooked to the TV, so that would serve the purpose. The other day my son wanted to watch The Matrix. After fighting with the PC and it's rejection of the DVD because I didn't have the right decoder, we gave up. I paid $4 to watch it on Amazon Instant Video. Sure it isn't as good as the DVD, but convenience won out.
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I just wasn't in the mood to bust out my hacker skills. I wanted to watch "The Matrix" with my son. Sometimes we need to find the path of least resistance.
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What have you got against his children? Did they beat you up or something?
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Not to mention the worst part of discs: having to get off your ass every couple hours to swap out discs. Add to that the clutter of a bunch of discs around, people with bad habits like stacking them on top of each other outside of the case, putting them in the wrong case, touching them with their fingers etc.Inconvenient, clutter and easily damaged/obsoleted when the players go away. Time to go. I don't know why I bothered but a few years back I bought a bluray player. I've rented exactly one video to try i
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Realize replying to an anon so not likely to see this but: do you think DVD players will be around in 10 years? If so how much of a pain will it be to get it hooked up to your tv/computer? When is the last time you've dusted off a VHS player to watch an old movie?
Everyone's different but generally I only want to see a movie once. Most movies I don't care about and the few I feel I must watch because of cultural relavence: Star Wars, Star Trek, Batman, LoTR etc are so main stream that I'll have hundreds of c
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HDD space is cheap too tough, ~$0.50 a DVD uncompressed. Compressed it is pennies. I don't need the greatest image quality for almost all movies (say romantic comedies, normal dramas, etc). The few CGI droole factories that come out every year sure I can see wanted the best quality because that to be honest is 90% of the plot of Transformers/X-Men etc.
DVD not going the way of the dodo: I don't know game consoles are having a relative hard time (yeah they are selling well now but only because they went what
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Yes. Almost all my media is streamed ... from my basement. It was a pain to set up, but now the kids can watch whatever they want without the pains of going through DVD or BluRay menus. A plus is that the home videos are easily accessible as well.
network (Score:2)
how do you have your content server networked? do you use wifi...cable...both? do you use some kind of software (maybe airport?) that does it all for you?
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interesting thnx!
network (Score:3)
I've been doing something similar for nearly a decade now. I started with a D-Link DSM-520 media streamer, then a WDTV, but eventually moved to XBMC and a custom built box to get the media compatibility I needed. Basically...
- The first rule of Netflix streaming is that they won't have the movie you want to see. Ever.
- WiFi is not a good option, especially for streaming HD video. You don't want the thing stuttering when you bring a date home or your kids are screaming for Finding Nemo.
- Streaming over NFS s
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good advice thanks!
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WiFi vs powerline networking is very much house-specific. Modern WiFi works great in most places these days, but it matters what's in the walls between here and there. Powerline networking works great in some places, but other are wired so there there's no signal at all between certain rooms, because of deliberate isolation (only heard o fthat in newer houses). One or the other is pretty likely to work for you, if you can't get GbE wired where you need it. At least try to wire up your most-used TV.
I use
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I have 2 dedicated servers, 1 is a micro atom box which runs mysql, squid, dans guardian, torrents, dhcp, mail etc. And another which is a freenas box holding all my storage. I share the data off the freenas box both via samba and nfs. Samba for the windows and handheld devices and nfs for the shuttle atom xbmcbuntu boxes I have behind the tvs. I have 3 of those and so that I can share what has been watched and the like they all push data to the mysql server.
The freenas box runs a script which pings eac
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looks like a good set up
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A friend of mine is a single mom and is routinely broke, but was still shelling out $60/mo for cable TV. I was giving her shit about it one day, and she said she only does it just for the kids channels. For her it was worth $2 a day just to plop her lil bastard in front of it so she could get shit done around the house.
So I took one of my old modded Xboxes, downloaded all the damn kids shows I could find (even those from 20 years ago), showed her how to rip DVDs to it, and set up XBMC so that she can just
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I wouldn't define a ripped DVD as streaming. To me that's Netflix or Prime or Hulu or whatever.
I *buy* my Movies, and Netflix TV shows I missed mostly. While attempting to lose weight I've watched a lot of TV series on Netflix on the treadmill this last year. So much so that I've made myself bored/tired of watching something. Playing PS3 games on a treadmill is all well and good until you place assassin's creed and inadvertently take a step/lean while climbing on a building.
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Tricky (Score:5, Insightful)
Most of my video, but almost none of my music. But I'm not sure how those two compare percentage-wise. And what about books? Do those count as media? I certainly don't stream even e-books. (Except, arguably, through O'Reilly's Safari program, which might count.) But then there's news media, which is almost entirely streamed. If you count visiting web-pages as streaming.
Honestly, I'm really not sure. Depending on how I measure, I might be able to come up with a number anywhere from 20 to 80.
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and there is the question of time and data too. when i watch locally, its usually 1080p. when i watch youtube, i usually set it to 480p because of my slow internet. so even though i might watch more youtube in terms of the time watched, the data transfered is way less than local 1080p content.
Re:Tricky (Score:5, Insightful)
How about minutes of media? Text doesn't count, as it isn't media.
Text isn't media? You've got a really bizarre definition of media! Even accepting that the word now has a separate meaning aside from its meaning as the plural of medium, the phrases "mass media" or "mainstream media" have always included newspapers and books. Which are, generally, text.
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We're talking about streaming media
Who's "we"? Looking throught the comments, I see a lot of people expressing confusion about the point.
Oh, and I'd say that a web-page counts as streaming text. And a lot of people might consider Project Gutenberg's offerings (for example) as more-or-less streaming, if you read them online.
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Well, on the subject of pedantic, I stream a fair bit of my music over a frequency modulated signal transmitted in the electromagnetic spectrum. Most of my combined audio/visual streaming is on a hard connection between some sort of random access memory to an output device after appropriate signal processing.
Or, stepping the pedantry up a notch, I stream most of my video and text between approximately 400 nm and 650 nm in the EM spectrum and audio via molecular vibrational wave propagation between 50 Hz an
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Poll Idea: Your fave SDCC experience (Score:2)
Choose one of the below:
1. Waiting in line for three hours for a badly mixed movie I could have watched next week
2. Dressing up as a Superhero without realizing how overweight I was until I saw it on the news
3. Becoming a Furry. What goes on in Furry rooms, stays in Furry rooms.
4. Comics. Because, duh!
5. Cloning Wil Wheaton.
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6. Wishing I had used this money for PAX.
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6. Wishing I had used this money for PAX.
DevPAX, PAX East, or PAX West?
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Pax vobiscum.
Definitions (Score:4, Insightful)
bi-modal (Score:2)
this is a bi-model distribution; and I think it reflects those who still have cable versus those who have cut the cord...
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I noticed this too, but think it reflects something other than access.
Obviously if you cut the cable: you stream or you either suffer the airwaves or just don't watch TV. But if you do still have cable, do you never stream? I don't think so, cable is dying because it can't offer the content you want on demand. You'll still stream, but you'll also get new shows on the DVR and balance the two.
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Mostly streamed here... (Score:1)
I mainly watch a number of people I'm subscribed with on YouTube, so pretty much everything is 100% streamed, other than the occasional movie, and even those wind up being purchased from an online store.
I'd love it if YouTube would give the option to content producers to allow automatic downloading, especially in a Web browser using local storage. I know it does some caching, but not entire videos, and having the videos download in the background would be a nice thing to have, especially longer ones.
Of cou
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Youtube won't. Youtube-dl is a Python script that will. Even if you have to remux the 1080p MP4 with the 128k M4A stream separately to get HD (because they took down their combined HTTP streaming and forced ev
streams usually suck (Score:1)
Ever Since Hulu Started Blocking VPNs... (Score:1)
Local streaming (Score:2)
I put 80-100%, but that's only if you count local streaming. Almost everything here is not watched via Netflix or Plex and the TVs each get a Chromecast.
Streaming even in my car (Score:2)
I have a bunch of stuff on bandcamp and it's easier to stream it from my phone than to download it into something that my car will play.
Mostly OTA captured with MythTV for later playback (Score:2)
My only streams are from my subscription to MUBI.
If TCM offered me a streaming service, I'd certainly pay for it.
It depends. (Score:3)
I prefer to download them even if they are streamable since my Internet can be slow, unstable, etc. If I can't do that, then I am forced to stream. I don't watch Hulu, Netflix, etc. though. I do plenty of free videos like YouTube.
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Not sure... (Score:2)
I don't use music streaming and similar services at all, just don't like them.
I don't use Netflix and similar movie streaming services at all. I'd like to but can't a lot of the time because of stupid regional restrictions.
I watch a fair amount of YouTube stuff (and appreciate the complete lack of stupid regional restrictions).
I listen to quite a bit of recorded radio programs offered by local radio stations over 3G/4G on my iPhone.
That amounts to about 20-30% of my media consumption.
Additionally all of my
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I watch a fair amount of YouTube stuff (and appreciate the complete lack of stupid regional restrictions).
It's not actually a complete lack. I haven't been able to watch the last couple of seasons of QI, because the BBC allows them on YouTube only with regional restrictions, and I'm not in the UK, and the BBC hasn't arranged for any other form of distribution of the show in the US. But in general, yeah, it's better than a lot of the alteratives.
(I could probably snag them off some torrent site somewhere, but I don't do that sort of thing in general.)
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Thanks. Hadn't thought of that, since it's way, way down on my list of priorities, but that makes a lot of sense. I can't actually moderate, since I've already commented, but please accept this virtual +1 interesting. :)
Still, the fact that there are relatively simple workarounds doesn't mean there aren't region restrictions.
Wanted to increase my consumption (Score:1)
Planned on using the internet more, but AT&T stopped me with a notice that I exceeded my "cap" and would be charged more if I did so again. Still, I'm never going to "pay for TV" again. $12,000 a decade is just way too much for me.
Defining media: ambiguous question! (Score:3)
PLEX + 9TB Raid 5 = Media Heaven (Score:2)
Does Slashdot count? (Score:2)
SO MANY THINGS ARE UNDEFINED
What do most people mean by stream? (Score:4, Insightful)
Does terrestrial broadcast signal count as "streaming"? Most of the media that enters my consciousness is broadcast television, printed word, radio and video or audio streams from the internet. If we discount broadcast television and radio as streams, then I need to find a good way to measure the proportion of printed word against streaming audio and video. If we count broadcast television and radio as streams, then internet streaming is a very small perfect (5% or so) compared to those even if we discount printed word.
Really, I think the crux here is that printed word and internet audio or video streams are really hard to compare.
Mine is different than my wife's (Score:2)
I'm up near 100% - assuming I can include my ripped movies and TV shows, which are "streamed" from my media server (an old Powerbook) to my television. If not, I'm still in the 60-80% bracket. My daughter's taste in movies and TV shows is similar to mine, and so she has pretty much the same viewing habits.
I'm not at 100% because we still watch (via Tivo) a few old TV shows - e.g. Hogan's Heroes and Seinfeld - that aren't always available via the streaming options I've got.
My wife, though, still watches a f
varies by age (Score:2)
Is convenience killing HD? (Score:2)
What with streaming and the convenience of ripping DVDs into a playback system, I have to wonder if interest in HD is being suppressed. I have a limited selection of Blu-ray and now will not even consider buying one unless it comes with a DVD copy. Scratch that, I dont consider buying them anymore.
Is convenience killing HD? (Score:2)
No because ripping Blu-rays is as easy as a ripping a DVD. You do have to spend a couple hours (on a semi-recent CPU) re-encoding to get the size down, though.
I didn't know the blu-ray encryption was beaten (Score:2)
And I find that hi-def was a fad for me. I am more interested in the story than anything else. DVD quality is sufficient.
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Actually I prefer the larger rips by far. Story is hugely important and I am willing to watch something of low quality if it is good enough. But I will always go a high rate 1080 if given the choice.
I also bought a bluray drive for my pc and rip away with that.
100% (Score:2)
everything streams from my dvd player to the tv over the hdmi cable
Is consumption time based or bit based? (Score:2)
I spend more time reading, but bit wise the videos win? Was the percentage based on bit volume or use time?
Over the air FM, is that "streaming"? (Score:2)
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If over the air FM radio is considered streaming (technically, it is), then instead of 0 to 20%, I'd have to say 60 to 80%.
Bad internet (Score:2)
Heh, nice poll (Score:3)
So far, these are the words in the question that no one can agree on a definition for:
1. stream
2. media
3. consume
4. percentage
Roughly in descending order of disagreement.
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This is a wonderful example of how when you want to manipulate results from public opinion polls, you use words your audience thinks it understands, but doesn't. We do it all the time.
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Sometimes I think that should be the one question every job interview above minimum wage should ask. If you fail, you shouldn't be allowed to be paid anything more than minimum wage.
If they complain, tell them they will get a 100% pay raise in one year automatically, but there might be a 50% pay c
What percentage of your media is downloaded (Score:2)
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Or digital television streamed via a satellite dish. Surely that's "streamed media"?
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I hope so because that's what I stream.
Then again, I DVR most of it before I watch it so I can skip commercials... So it was streamed at one point, but I since I collect it, I'm not watching it streamed. What a crappy poll.
Maybe if we define streaming as 'Start watching something before you have all of it"
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Life is streamed in the form of a continual inflow of photons to receptors on our retina. From that point of view everything we see is streamed. What a crappy poll indeed.
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umm... yes [wikipedia.org]
Sure, you're not going to get those speeds through most ISPs, but ISPs don't need to be a part of the streaming equation. I stream within my own house, from the NAS box in the back room to the HTPC in the living room, or to the Roku in the bedroom.
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You're definitely not alone. There are entire threads on the exact definition of "streaming" as it pertains to this poll... which is really what makes polls such a terrible source for actual evidence. Even though we're reading the same words, everyone is answering a different question.