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MPAA and FBI Help To Train Swedish Police
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kdawson
on Tue Feb 20, 2007 07:24 AM
from the Pirate-Bay-not-obvious-enough? dept.
from the Pirate-Bay-not-obvious-enough? dept.
Several readers let us know about a program in which a US FBI agent and employees of the MPAA led a seminar for Swedish police officers in methods of finding and stopping illegal downloading from the Internet. The writer at zeropaid.com says, "I bet the Swedish people are going to love to find out that the US government and a US lobbying group now have a hand in training their police personnel. So much for the notion of national sovereignty." Reader Oxygen provided a bit of translation from an article in Swedish on IDG.se: "According to Bertil Ramsell, responsible for the course, the purpose of the visit was to give the invited speakers a chance to explain to the students what their organization's purpose was. But in a report from the IIPA, the purpose was to educate students in anti-piracy."
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Revolution (Score:4, Insightful)
It's time the governments of the world feared the people.
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Revolution (Score:4, Insightful)
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stupid thinking (Score:5, Interesting)
NO, its the corporates that control things...like the mass media, party funding, and so on.
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Re:Revolution (Score:4, Insightful)
It is revolution. Out with the old, in with the new.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
-The Who Won't Get Fooled Again.
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Bloc-ization (Score:5, Funny)
As time goes on and power is consolidated in the world, smaller powers will find themselves increasingly strongly attached to the main power bloc with which they are affiliated. Thus European nations find themselves increasingly Americanized, Asia finds itself increasingly Sinicized, and the Islamic world finds itself increasingly dominated by relatively uniform fundamentalist thinking, as opposed to the diverse, relatively secular regional ideologies that prevailed in the last century.
Eventually, the three nations of Eurasia, Eastasia and Oceania will settle down into their near-endless cold war.
P.S. Eastasia will win.
Re:Bloc-ization (Score:5, Funny)
What are you talking about?
We've always been at war with the pirat...terroris...er...EastAsia
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Good article, trolling comment- (Score:5, Insightful)
There are United States military troops in Germany, Italy, South Korea, Japan, Colombia, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Kosovo, Egypt, Singapore, Thailand, the UK, Spain, Turkey, Portugal, Qatar, Bahrain, Cuba, etc. etc. etc. We run the Iraqi and Afghanistan governments. Training Swedish police is not a threat to national sovereignty, and if you dispute this, it still barely scrapes the iceberg. It's hysteria to complain that training foreign governments is intruding on their sovereignty if they request it.
We train police around the world, in almost all situations, our assistance is requested and welcomed. (by the governments, at least) If the wholly independent Swedish government and the people were opposed, there might be a case.
Complain about training them in bad DMCA-style law enforcement, or in RIAA-scare-tactics. Don't complain about a foreign country asking and receiving assistance.
Re:Good article, trolling comment- (Score:5, Insightful)
The MPAA aren't soldiers, they aren't police, and they aren't a neutral public institution. Their concerns isn't for the citizens. They're there solely to make sure their profits are safeguarded and that things will go exactly the way they want them to. They've essentially bought their way into law enforcement and there's something profoundly unsettling about that.
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Re:Good article, trolling comment- (Score:4, Insightful)
Apparently the RIAA is a full-fledged police force [slashdot.org], so I'm guessing the MPAA just wanted in on the "let's dress up like Hollywood SWAT team members and pretend to be police" action too.
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Re:Good article, trolling comment- (Score:5, Interesting)
What the big fuss is about, is that the Swedish police is tacitly agreeing that it will follow FBI:s and MPAA:s anti-piracy policies and do their dirty work for them. Which means do everything they can to shut down thepiratebay.
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Re:Good article, trolling comment- (Score:5, Insightful)
Firstly, I expect the FBI and MPAA will be tainted to train to American laws. Obviously the Unless copyright laws are aligned between the two countries we're likely to see the Swedish Police overstepping the mark, like they did when they confiscated TPB servers previously - didn't that turn out to be against local law (TPB was working within the law?).
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Re:Good article, trolling comment- (Score:4, Insightful)
I doubt very highly, that the people of Sweden are in any way interested in copyright infringement law enforcement. Its lunacy to even be talking about it, copyright infringement is our countries way of trying to hold back the tide of an every increasing momentum of free expression. This isn't book and print. You put something out on the net or make it digital it no longer has any substance. It exists in the minds of the people that create it and experience it. Sharing ideas whether they originated with you are not is a natural part of how we express our selfs. Get over it, and move the fuck on.
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Uh (Score:5, Insightful)
FBI agent Andrew Myers and the MPAA have given a group of six Swedish police officers extensive training on how to effectively combat piracy and catch people who engage in illegal downloading from the internet.
How exactly is the MPAA able to teach Swedish police how to "effectively combat piracy", when the MPAA themselves fail to achieve that?
Re:Uh (Score:5, Interesting)
Is it a law? Or it's an abuse?
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In next election.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Thank you, RIAA, this was the most intelligent thing to do.
Now there is a thought. (Score:5, Funny)
UK children (Score:3, Interesting)
I know, it's premature and immature, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
Comment from the Pirat Party (Score:5, Insightful)
"The judicial system is make a mistake a see these lobby organisations as some sort of private police corp. Their only interest is to keep their old profitable monopoly. There organisations have nothing to do in our judicial system, says The Pirate Partys partyleader Rickard Falkvinge."
That pretty much sums it up if you ask me.
Re:Comment from the Pirat Party (Score:4, Insightful)
It's called politics.
No way to do anything to it, as long as they have at least a little of their reputation left. Which is not much, anyway.
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The most wonderful irony... (Score:5, Insightful)
Wrong perception in the USA (Score:4, Insightful)
So ? You swedish are going to let this slide ? (Score:3, Interesting)
There are no news around to that extent yet. We are waiting to see some swedish democracy in action.