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U.S. Government Retains ICANN Oversight

Posted by Zonk on Fri Sep 29, 2006 02:18 PM
from the not-going-anywhere dept.
narramissic writes "ITworld reports that the U.S. Commerce Department will retain ICANN oversight for three more years, although there will be a review in 18 months of ICANN's progress toward becoming a more stable, transparent and accountable organization. The decision comes despite international pressure advocating for the U.S. government to bow out and make ICANN a totally autonomous entity."

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Ian Lamont writes "ICANN's current Joint Project Agreement with the US Commerce Department is set to expire in September of 2009, and ICANN wants to become more autonomous and switch to a global governance model, says ICANN's executive officer. The agreement between the nonprofit ICANN and the Commerce Department has been in place since 1998, and was renewed in 2006 despite international protests. A few US-based groups named in the article — including the Center for Democracy and Technology, the trade group TechNet and a conservative think tank iGrowthGlobal — would like the agreement with the Commerce Department to continue, in part to provide 'accountability.' The ICANN officer quoted in the article says expiration of the Commerce Department agreement would not remove accountability, as ICANN still has a contract with the US to operate the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority and must follow California law governing nonprofits. The Register is running a related story about why some people are uncomfortable with the United States' influence on ICANN. We discussed ICANN's request for independence a few months ago."
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  • The Commerce Department remains committed toward eventually giving ICANN full autonomy, it said.
    • An autonomous ICANN is even more dangerous than what we have today. We can easily predict that the autonomous ICANN would basically do whatever the registies want: granting them perpetual, unregulated monopolies with the ability to raise prices and otherwi
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          *sigh* There we go again.

          You don't own the internet! Some of the core protocols of the internet were invented in America. Others weren't! E.g. the World Wide Web was invented by an english man [wikipedia.org]. Can you picture the internet without the world wide web? Sho

    • Re:One Good thing (Score:4, Insightful)

      by eln (21727) * on Friday September 29 2006, @02:40PM (#16250143)
      I don't get how that's a good thing. How would eliminating oversight make ICANN into a more stable and accountable organization?

      ICANN is a private entity that makes decisions that affect the Internet at large with almost no public oversight as it is. They are already proposing to add a bunch more ridiculous TLDs to fund their enormous proposed budget increases. It has become clear that new TLDs are not intended to improve the Internet, but are rather ICANN's license to print money. How would things be better if they no longer had anyone to answer to for that sort of garbage?

      Sure, the US government is not great at oversight with regard to technical matters, but it's a lot better than no oversight at all. Given the hatred of the UN on this site, I'm sure no one would ever want ICANN to be brought under their influence, but some sort of international governing body would be a good thing. At this point, the UN is the closes thing we have to something like that.

      Bringing ICANN under international control and creating more opportunity for the public at large to influence their decision making would be a step in the right direction. Ending what little oversight the organization currently has with nothing to replace it is a step in the wrong direction.
      [ Parent ]
      • Re: (Score:2)

        but some sort of international governing body would be a good thing. At this point, the UN is the closes thing we have to something like that.

        In that case you need'nt worry.We know which country has the max influence on UN!

  • On the other hand, others believe that continued U.S. government oversight of ICANN is necessary because ICANN hasn't proven it can handle the entire task of DNS management alone and that if the U.S. government withdraws, the Internet's security and stabi
  • You want an ICANN Nation? (Score:5, Informative)

    by stefanlasiewski (63134) <slashdot&stefanco,com> on Friday September 29 2006, @02:38PM (#16250093) Homepage Journal
    The decision comes despite international pressure advocating for the U.S. government to bow out and make ICANN a totally autonomous entity.

    A totally autonomous entity? You want to make ICANN it's own individual nation? The Internet should be run by a stateless corporation who is completely outside the authority of any government at all? That's straight out of a cyberpunk novel ;) Welcome to the Treehouse [wikipedia.org].

    I thought the argument was to place ICANN under the authority of the UN, which is a completely different idea then making "ICANN a totally autonomous entity".

    This is the meat of the argument, right? Should ICANN be under US authority or should it be under UN authority?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)


      I thought the argument was to place ICANN under the authority of the UN, which is a completely different idea then making "ICANN a totally autonomous entity".

      This is the meat of the argument, right? Should ICANN be under US authority or should it be under
  • International pressure? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MightyYar (622222) on Friday September 29 2006, @02:40PM (#16250131)
    "The NY Times reports that John Derringer of 5th Ave. will retain his pocket change. The decision comes despite numerous homeless people asking him for money."
  • ICANN are announcing it as a move to much more independance and emphasising LESS US-DOC control. Spin or PR? I dunno. the press-release is here [icann.org]
    • Re: (Score:2)

      Nothing ever has. You cannot be completely invisible and fully accountable. You missed a word though, more. They are looking for a greater sense of stability, transparency, and accountability. Completely different than absolutes.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        And who mentioned anything about invisible? or it being an absolute? I think you're seeing words that aren't there.

        I believe accountability leads to transparency and vice-versa. The word transparency in this case doesn't mean invisible, it means the fu

          • Re: (Score:2)

            This place has really gone to hell as UIDs approached one million.

            Are you stupid, or being deliberately obtuse? Either one is annoying.

            In case you're just an idiot, "fully transparent" refers to the skin of the organization, so you can look in, and

    • Re: (Score:2)

      The Internal Revenue Service. That organization seems to be very good at what they do.
      • IRS?? (Score:3, Insightful)

        You've got to be kidding.

        The only reason they haven't totally failed is they are a legal monopoly.

        Their customer service and satisfaction is horrible. Many people can't even figure out how to file their own taxes.

        They can't even effectively get the money t
    • Re: (Score:2)

      The U.S. Postal Service does a pretty darn competitive job despite congressional oversight.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I'm sorry, but when has the US Government *ever* had a hand in something that turned into a stable, transparent and accountable organization?

      NIST, the Postal Service, etc, etc. There are many examples, but your irrational US hatred blinds you to this.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Actually they are retaining oversight while ICANN works to improve it's stability, transparency and accountability. It doesn't say the US government is trying to turn ICANN into that. Simply cutting it loose before it's ready will cause chaos. The US gover
    • Re:does not compute (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Stonent1 (594886) <stonent AT stone ... intclark DOT net> on Friday September 29 2006, @02:46PM (#16250253) Journal
      Replace "US Government" with "Any Government"
      [ Parent ]
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      I'm sorry, but when has the US Government *ever* had a hand in something that turned into a stable, transparent and accountable organization?

      When compared to the alternative by anyone other than starry-eyed international idealists, the US Government starts
    • Maybe nothing at all but then maybe someone else (a mix of nations) could do even better.
      • Re: (Score:2)

        When has 'a mix of nations' ever run anything well?
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Then we'd veto. Besides, if fundamentalist christians in the US have been unable to censor the internet (despite having allies at the highest levels of the government) then I don't think it's going to happen in the UN.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      At least it wouldn't give people the feeling that the USA likes to stick their nose in all matters and have control of everything under the sun...

      We seem to agree, here on Slashdot, that the relative "anarchy" inherent to the way the internet works is a