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Bush Website Blocked Outside N. America

Posted by timothy on Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:00 AM
from the registered-and-likely-voters dept.
acey72 writes "The BBC News are reporting that George W Bush's re-election website (don't bother if you aren't in the USA) is blocked to people accessing it from outside the USA. Netcraft spotted the change on Monday, and have a report on the matter. Oh well, at least John Kerry's site still works for us outlanders." At least some Canadians can access the Bush campaign site, but Europeans cannot (without going through a U.S. proxy).
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:01AM (#10641763)
    though it's a little off-message [georgewbush.org].
  • Perfectly demonstrates (Score:5, Insightful)

    by xThinkx (680615) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:01AM (#10641771) Homepage
    How much of a solid foreign policy this guy has.
    • Re:Perfectly demonstrates (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TAGmclaren (820485) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:12AM (#10641951)
      How much of a solid foreign policy this guy has.


      You got modded troll, but I think it's a fair comment. The man's invaded Iraq, invaded Afghanistan, and at length talked about the importance of alliance support.

      Why shouldn't the rest of the world see what's on his website? If Iraq's important enough for him to invade, it's important enough for him to spend a few extra $$$ for the people of Iraq (and the RoW) to see what his re-election policies are.

      The other thing that shits me about this is that it is setting a nasty precedent for the web - and this is a high profile site. I'd hate to see a whole lot of other sites all around the world taking this approach to blocking foreign access. It would ruin the 'net.
      [ Parent ]
  • Works from Canada... (Score:5, Funny)

    by deragon (112986) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641774) Homepage Journal
    Works from Montreal, Canada... Are we considered the 51st state? Can we vote? :)
  • Non-US Simulation (Score:5, Informative)

    by Big Mark (575945) <m_t_douglas@hotmail.YEATScom minus poet> on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641778)
    Not in the US? Here's what you're missing!
    Access Denied

    You don't have permission to access "http://www.georgewbush.com/" on this server.
    • Re:Non-US Simulation (Score:5, Insightful)

      by infinite9 (319274) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:06AM (#10641846)
      Anyone know why? I don't know I'm asking. I bet it's a preemptive action to prevent DDOS attacks from outside.
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Non-US Simulation (Score:5, Interesting)

      by suso (153703) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:10AM (#10641927) Homepage Journal
      So its not a routing table thing then, they are actually doing it from the web server. Crazy.

      It makes me wonder, how are they doing it and if they got all the IP blocks for non-us countries, or if they just went by "blocking APNIC and RIPE blocks"
      [ Parent ]
  • At last (Score:5, Funny)

    by Joe the Lesser (533425) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641781) Homepage Journal
    Now he can safely discuss security issues!
  • Forum abuse perhaps? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641784)
    Does it have a forum, or a feedback system? It could be that they were getting a lot of, ahem, abusive messages from non-US citizens and decided this was the best way to curb them. Has anyone actually asked the admins?

    Either way BFD. Political websites are almost entirely content or truth free. Why bother reading them?
  • Not Surprised (Score:5, Interesting)

    by OverlordQ (264228) * on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641785) Journal
    Given the previous attacks by Cyber-Terroists (eg: those few odd groups protesting the RNC) I'm not surprised. If they limit the connections to US only it'll be alot easier to track them down.
  • Proxy (Score:5, Informative)

    by seizer (16950) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:02AM (#10641787) Homepage
    For those of us with non-US IPs, and who still have some hankering to actually visit the site, then Proxify [proxify.com] will let you view. Be warned though, it shows NSFW text ads as well.
  • Fine. (Score:5, Funny)

    by MadFarmAnimalz (460972) <youssef.assad@gma i l . com> on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:03AM (#10641788) Homepage
    Then he's going to get blocked on my site in reply.

    What's George W. Bush's IP? Anyone know?
  • "You are not authorized..." (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Gentoo Fan (643403) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:04AM (#10641812) Homepage
    Geez, at least put up a sensible message like "To reduce traffic load non-US visitors will see blah blah blah". Despite the fact that non-Americans aren't voting you should at least have some half decent PR.
  • Diplomatic Oversight (Score:5, Funny)

    by themesb (684888) <themesb@gma i l . c om> on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:04AM (#10641824) Homepage
    But how will Tony Blair know what to do next?
  • I bet (Score:5, Funny)

    by StevenHenderson (806391) <stevehenderson@noSpaM.gmail.com> on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:05AM (#10641826)
    I bet that the Saudis still have access to the site. I mean, he has to get campaign contributions somehow, right?
  • nyud.net:8090 works (Score:5, Informative)

    by W2k (540424) <wilhelm...svenselius@@@gmail...com> on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:05AM (#10641836) Homepage Journal
    Though I've never felt the need to visit Bush's re-election website, it seems to be quite available through Coral [nyud.net] even for us europeans. Dog slow, though.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:06AM (#10641855)
    I live in Guam, and I can't access the site either. It's a US territory, so the citizens aren't allowed to vote in presidential elections, but it's still part of the US and, as it happens, I'm from VA so I'm eligible to vote. Although by absentee ballot wouldn't be counted until after the results are tallied anyway, so what's the point.

    Not that I'd vote for Bush. Or Kerry. May they both Rot in Peace.
  • This one works (Score:5, Informative)

    by abdulwahid (214915) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:07AM (#10641873) Homepage

    Well, the hackers will never think of using this one https://georgewbush.com/ [georgewbush.com]

  • Not blocking IP, only DNS name (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:12AM (#10641955)
    They're actually only blocking georgewbush.com, not the IP 65.172.163.222 which the domainname points to.

    So http://65.172.163.222 works fine abroad.

    Silly ISP.
    • by prell (584580) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:07AM (#10641868)
      This change of permission is very literal, almost comical example of not caring what the rest of the world thinks, and siding with the interests of business.

      Blaming this on the capabilities of the provider is not an excuse.
      [ Parent ]
    • by halligas (782561) * on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:13AM (#10641972)
      This is a political campaign site with political campaign propaganda. And since there are still an extremely wide variety of ways to get at its content and information from outside the US, it's obviously not some kind of "international censorship".

      While I agree that there is nothing "wrong" with this (other than the collateral overseas abenstee voter damage), it does point out something about this presidents beliefs:

      What the rest of the world thinks does not matter.

      [ Parent ]
    • by jbrw (520) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:14AM (#10641988) Homepage
      While you're at it, explain to me how it's right for the Guardian to encourage its UK readers, i.e., not US citizens, to start a letter writing and email campaign to Ohioans encouraging them to vote for John Kerry

      I thought Americans were pretty keen on a concept called "free speech"?

      Oh - hang on... What year is it again?
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:a few questions... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rico_za (702279) on Wednesday October 27 2004, @10:07AM (#10641862)
      In some way it makes financial sense, by cutting bandwidth costs. They're mostly excluding people that can't vote for you anyway. On the other hand, they're excluding American voters overseas, maybe not such a smart thing. And it's bound to generate bad publicity. Maybe not such a bright idea as they originally thought.
      [ Parent ]