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Canadian DMCA Bill Withdrawn
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on Mon Dec 10, 2007 09:11 PM
from the voice-of-the-people dept.
from the voice-of-the-people dept.
ToriaUru writes to let us know that Michael Geist is reporting that the Canadian Minister of Industry will not be introducing the proposed Canadian Digital Millennium Copyright Act legislation as scheduled. That proposed legislation, discussed here a couple of weeks back, is now reaching Canada's mainstream press. Geist doesn't speculate on why the legislation is being withdrawn, but it could have something to do with the massive popular outcry against the proposal that Geist helped to orchestrate.
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MPAA's response: (Score:4, Funny)
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Here's how it will PASS... and its underway. (Score:4, Insightful)
So, it will go to a small blip or nonexistent blip on the radar, and a year down the road, the RCMP will be kicking in doors or seizing equipment based on a treaty ratified with Bun-fuk-u-stan, which states that they have to enforce whatever treaty was accepted for the "benefits of Canda's socialized welfare system".
That or the UN, intergovernmental panel on climate change will discover that Britney's pirated MP3's are actually causing global warming or costing Britney so much in lost royalties that she can't afford to feed those starving children that the UN has failed to care for over the years (Kofi Anan's son, however, managed to buy himself a pair of Lamborghinis with the money he received as "salary")
(And we know that a bunch of politically appointed "scientists" and bureaucrats are going to be FAR more correct on telling us why the earth is getting warmer each morning and colder each evening, because that damn glowing orb in the sky that has had variable output over several million/billion years is just too insignificant to really matter... its wooden stoves that heat up the earth and diesel engines, so shut down that goddamn sun and stop wasting that heat!!)
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Where does global warming, the UN, the USA and Kofi's son come into it?
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I am fully supportive of any UN action that results in less Britney Spears. Pro-piracy, anti-piracy, pro-climate-change, anti-climate-change
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"And it would have worked, too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids!!"
well done (Score:3, Insightful)
The rest of you that just whined but could take the time to actually help do something:
You got luck this time, you leeching mother fuckers.
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Well, I did my best to explain to President Bush that Canada was working on weapons of mass destruction and needed to be bombed immediately. However, he merely shrugged and said that would be something for Jenna to deal with when she is President.
Re:well done (Score:5, Informative)
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Absolutely agreed. I emailed my MP on the matter (could have written a real letter, that's on my to-do for next time this bill inevitably shows up). This is an example of representative government actually working, we ought to be celebrating. When your government works like it's supposed to, it's everyone's responsibility to be vigilant keep it working!
My praise and congratulations go out to Dr. Geist, who successfully rallied the people. If only there were more men like him out in the world.
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Re:well done (Score:5, Informative)
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On the other hand (Score:3, Informative)
And we did know something about the bill. We knew a ban on DRM circumvention technology was in it because the government announced it would implement the WIPO treaty. That in itself is bad e
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So, Minister Prentice received an email (and would have called him from Toronto as well, but
the usual (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:the usual (Score:5, Informative)
This was about a bill that was going to be tabled this week. Nobody knew what was in it, except for insiders (one of whom apparently leaked details to Geist.)
This shows pretty much that Geist's source is credible - if the bill wasn't as bad as he said, then Minister would have tabled it, and made Geist look foolish.
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Then once he read it he realized it was as bad as everyone made it out to be he withdrew it before anyone else could read it to spare himself and the government the controversy.
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Doesn't look like the Minister responsible... (Score:5, Interesting)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_dHu5fRAk [youtube.com]
This is a video of Industry Minister Jim Prentice getting ambushed by amateur reporters and bloggers on the way to his riding association's Xmas party, and he comes across not only as not caring about anyone who isn't a CEO, but not really understanding the issue.
He may be our "series of tubes" guy in Canada.
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I'm not sure if he even read my fax or what but I do feel a lot better knowing that I actually said something and did something instead of just cheerleading on message boards.
-Proud to be Canadian!
Monopolies... (Score:5, Insightful)
Copyright is simply a government enforced monopoly: allowing the copyright holder to have a monopoly on that particular piece of IP.
Like many of you, I am also a producer of intellectual property. Unlike big business, however, I don't see the need for me to have a monopoly. I am more encouraged to produce when I cannot simply rest on my butt and earn money for work that I did years ago.
As a consumer of intellectual property (gads, how I hate that term!), I simply cannot see how it benefits me to let my government grant big companies a monopoly on what is rapidly becoming our common, shared culture.
Re:Monopolies... (Score:5, Insightful)
"Slippery slope" is such a nice way to describe it.
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Nothing wrong with copyright (Score:3, Interesting)
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It would be like doing 10 years of good investing on the stock market, retiring on $10M dollars only to be told 5 years down the track to hand all your capital gains over because you are not allowed to enjoy the fruits of your work; you must keep working.
And why would I pay for something new the artists created when I can have so much s
Too many contradictions (Score:2)
Why would more information be produced if it is free to share? Any information anyone produces is free to share if the producer wants it to be. Yes, you have copyright, but you can license your information any way YOU want. Got something to share, make it public domain or give it a creative commons license. Knowing that their information is going to be copied freely might be inspiring, but it is hardly going to make anyone able to spend days, months, year
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When you look at the low avera
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And copyright isn't a monopoly, in the way most people think of monopoly. If I don't like RIAA music, there's plenty of indie bands I can listen to.
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I make my living, completely and entirely, as a result of the IP I produce. I write books, scripts & music, I design performances, etc. I write software and web applications. I'm also a performer. This is my bread and butter.
As for monopoly, I stand by what I said. If you have one company who holds copyright to a significant fraction of our current culture, and markets that material as culture to perpetuate it for their own financial gains, and the copyright
Well, it would be reckless of the people to allow (Score:2)
Go Canada! Stand up and who your pride AND defiance.
Good news, everyone! (Score:5, Funny)
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Last winter and last summer in Ottawa were pretty mild. The cold weather lately demonstrates that we haven't been polluting enough. To the beer-fridge store!
It's hit the news-wire now! (Score:2, Insightful)
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Thank a minority government (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't live anywhere near Calgary, but I was one of the ones who (politely but firmly) e-mailed him with my objections to a Canadian DMCA and how C-60 loomed large in my mind last election.
If the current government can ignore the Kyoto accords, they sure as heck can choose to ignore WIPO as well.
Re:Thank a minority government (Score:5, Insightful)
Below is the text of what I sent:
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Dear Hon. Jim Prentice:
I regret that I am unable to attend your open-house session tomorrow, 08 Dec 2007, in person; however, I would like to take this opportunity to express my concern over a proposed piece of legislation regarding Canadian copyright, namely the so-called "Canadian DMCA".
I work as an IT professional, however my background is in pure Computer Science. I often spend time performing security research. A Canadian version of the US DMCA legislation greatly concerns me -- one needs to look no further than the 'US v. Elcomsoft & Sklyarov' case to see why.
References: http://w2.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Elcomsoft/us_v_sklyarov_faq.html [eff.org]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Sklyarov [wikipedia.org]
In this instance, legitimate security research was suppressed, and the researcher arrested at the will of a large corporation. Rather than acknowledge & fix the weaknesses in their product's security, Adobe chose to use the DMCA as a sledgehammer to suppress disclosure of information they did not like.
This has obvious chilling effects -- as an analogue, if a researcher were to find a weakness in the encryption used for e.g. online banking, is it reasonable to arrest the researcher rather than fix the weakness? To my mind, it is infinitely preferable to acknowledge, fix, and continuously improve security through legitimate research. Those with criminal intent will search for these weaknesses in any event -- it is much better to discover and fix the issues in a transparent manner. As the saying goes, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." hold very true here.
Other kinds of DMCA abuse is well-documented and widespread. A few simple Google searches (e.g. "DMCA abuse") very quickly turn up many sources of information. This legislation has been used to suppress reviews or opinions which are negative towards large companies -- technically, these should be handled as a civil lawsuit for slander or libel (if they are, in fact, untrue); however, many large corporations choose to invoke a DMCA takedown notice instead, as it forces the content hoster to take down the material immediately, rather than waiting for a judgement from a court of law. It is important to note that it is *corporations* that send these takedown notices, not the courts. Under this model, 'justice' is a distant wish.
There was some research done in 2005 by the University of South Carolina which showed that 30% of DMCA takedown notices sent by corporations were improper, and even potentially illegal (unfortunately, the document seems to have been taken offline, or moved, but the previous URL was http://lawweb.usc.edu/news/releases/2005/legalFlaws.html [usc.edu]). This is a stunningly high figure -- laws are traditionally written to ensure that there is an onus of proof before charges are filed, and that due legal process is followed. The rules of jurisprudence are critical to ensure the equitable operation of any society, but overly broad, overly powerful laws like the US DMCA allow companies with deep legal pockets to run rampant, and allows them to run a private campaign of fear and intimidation.
I wish to point out that I am not pro-piracy, but rather am opposed to legislation (and legislators) funded or supported by corporations. This is the very antithesis of a democracy, and is the current state in the US. Canada is already dangerously close to that abyss, and I do not wish to
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cockroaches don't like light (Score:2)
You mean.... (Score:2)
Boy, I bet they feel dumb...
Not withdrawn, delayed (Score:5, Informative)
Yes! (Score:2)
I actually took the time to write a letter. Dead trees and the whole thing. To my dying day I'll claim to that it was both well written and convincing. All I said is that it seemed like a _very_ bad idea to be deciding on copyright law in the midst of one of the most dramatic changes in the real-world IP practice that I can recall. If all the IP holders are dropping DRM, maybe it's not the greatest idea to be enacting laws about legitimizing DRM... Right? I sent it on Thursday.
Here's to having absolutel
Discovering Facebook (Score:2, Funny)
likely US reaction (Score:2)
"Introduce this bill again, pronto, or we'll flatten Toronto!" (Canadian Bacon [wikipedia.org]).
Re:likely US reaction (Score:5, Funny)
- signed, the rest of Canada.
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Bill could still be introduced tomorrow (Score:5, Informative)
Oh, of course, as already mentioned, the title and summary of this story are wrong, since a bill that's never been introduced cannot be withdrawn. As usual with editors, YMMV.
They'll Try Again (Score:3, Interesting)
I think the correct response is every time they try something like this, push to have IP laws relaxed and clarified. Push to add transparency to the government so that the crooked deals to the corrupt politicians will be in the open for all to see. Push to make it impossible for a entity that only exists as a legal fiction to buy the law with billions of dollars. Every time they push, push back harder.
Re:the evil person in me... (Score:5, Funny)
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Re:the evil person in me... (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:Good Job (Score:5, Funny)
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