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DHS's 'Secure Flight' Program Proven Insecure
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Zonk
on Sun Dec 24, 2006 06:14 AM
from the i-trust-the-government-as-far-as-i-can-throw-it dept.
from the i-trust-the-government-as-far-as-i-can-throw-it dept.
News.com is reporting the somewhat unsurprising news that a government program we were assured was 'perfectly safe', has actually been proven to be a privacy nightmare. The 'Secure Flight' program matched air traveler information with commercial databases in the interests of national security. The charter for the program specifically forbade the TSA from accessing this information; the organization got their hands on it anyway. The Department of Homeland Security has released a report, detailing these findings and analyzing the situation. The News.com piece makes it clear the report was released on Friday in an attempt to obscure it from public notice; it was only linked to from a DHS subsite, and has not shown up on the DHS or TSA main pages. From the article: "The report from the Homeland Security privacy office takes pains to say that the privacy compromises over Secure Flight were 'not intentional,' and includes a list of seven recommendations to avoid similar mishaps in the future. Those include explaining to the public exactly what's going on and creating a 'data flow map' to ensure information is handled in compliance with the 1974 Privacy Act. This isn't the first report to take issue with Secure Flight. Last year, auditors at the U.S. Government Accountability Office reported that the program violated the Privacy Act."
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Vicissidude writes "At the National Targeting Center, the Automated Targeting System program harvests up to 50 fields of passenger data from international flights, including names, e-mail addresses and phone numbers, and uses watchlists, criminal databases and other government systems to assign risk scores to every passenger. When passengers deplane, Customs and Border Protection personnel then target the high scorers for extra screening. Data and the scores can be kept for 40 years, shared widely, and be used in hiring decisions. Travelers may neither see nor contest their scores. The ATS program appears to fly in the face of legal requirements Congress has placed in the Homeland Security appropriations bills for the last three years." From the article: "Marc Rotenberg, the director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said he was unaware of the language but that it clearly applies to the Automated Targeting System, not just Secure Flight, the delayed successor to CAPPS II. 'Bingo, that's it -- the program is unlawful,' Rotenberg said. 'I think 514(e) stands apart logically (from the other provisions) and 514 says the restrictions apply to any 'other follow-on or successor passenger prescreening program'. It would be very hard to argue that ATS as applied to travelers is not of the kind contemplated (by the lawmakers).'"
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Misreading (Score:3, Funny)
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Just like criminal background checks... (Score:5, Insightful)
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In the new world order, everybody is a terror suspect until proven otherwise. It won't be long before special rewards will be authorised for children who inform on their non-conformist parents.
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Actually there are classes of people who do not have to be proven otherwise. e.g. those who pass and enforce laws about terrorist suspects.
Re:Just like criminal background checks... (Score:5, Insightful)
Is *which* person a terror suspect?
Obviously, it would be nice to know if the person at the airport is actually suspected of being a terrorist, via evidence of links to known terrorists, etc., but to do that, you have to be able to correctly identify the person at the airport, and not just by name, and you also have to know that the reason for the suspicion is real.
All this system does is pick out people who identify themselves using a name that matches one that was placed on the list somehow. Read that last statement carefully, and identify all of the ways in which it's different from "identify suspected terrorists". Then think about what kind of program you'd have to implement in order to really "identify suspected terrorists", and what kind of police state would be required to make it work.
Given a full profile of the terror suspect, trained TSA agents might be able to ascertain with some reliability whether or not the person trying to travel is actually the suspect, so if implemented it should definitely NOT be a boolean value based only on a matching name. Since the whole thing is so completely unreliable, though, and the only way to make it reliable is to further eliminate our civil liberties, the better solution is just to scrap it.
Somehow, the people in the US need to realize that the blood that must water the tree of liberty isn't just the blood of soldiers who go "over there" and kill the enemy. A free society is vulnerable in ways that a police state is not, but accepting that vulnerability is part and parcel of freedom. If an occasional 9/11 is the price of our civil liberties, we should be prepared to pay it, and consider it the bargain that it is. Cue the famous Benjamin Franklin quote.
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I wonder... (Score:5, Insightful)
See, this is why I'm always skeptical of these things. And for some reason, critics are always written off as paranoid or unrealistic. I wonder if they said the same things when people warned that the new "small" income tax would quickly grow?
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A new bill? Why? Haven't you noticed, the government doesn't obey laws now anyway. They just do what they want. Surely they don't feel "accountable" to the people anymore...
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Nah, just left-wing nutjobs. That drumbeat will continue until the next time a Democrat is elected president and the new administration addresses the security rules. At which point the new security rules will instantly become either (a) an unacceptable affront to America's tradition of personal liberty and a symbol of how the left is out to control everyone's lives (if the restrictions are tightened), (b) a sign that the left is
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Friday news releases... (Score:5, Interesting)
It's an old trick to release news on a Friday night, when less people are going to see it. Also, any day in which a major news story (superbowl, oscar night, day after elections, etc.) is scheduled -- those are the days to read the newspaper carefully-- those are days that are typically used to obscure potentially damaging news.
In a 24-hour news cycle it's much harder to hide bad news from the public, but there are still golden times when the government and others are virtually guaranteed no one will be paying attention. Kudos for bringing this story to light.
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Thank god we have reliable 24 hour news, like CNN. Oh wait, I don't see anything about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie in the story... this isn't NEWS!!!
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There's also releasing potentially politically embarrasing stories on the same day as a major disaster.
In a 24-hour news cycle it's much harder to hide bad news from the public,
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This is actually (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry dudes in the US; you really, really need to clean up your privacy laws to actually protect the individual and not to favor major business (and making identity theft darn easy in the bargain).
Lock 'em up! (Score:5, Insightful)
If I sign a contract that specifically says I can only get X under condition of Y and Z, then breaking those conditions invalidates the contract. Secure Flight should be terminated and TSA be made liable for any and all damages.
Why is it that governments and corporations can fuck up constantly on a scale that makes you dizzy while any natural person doing a fuckup on a similar scale would be locked away for life?
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So. It was proven pointless long before that. (Score:5, Insightful)
The US terror rate since (and before) 911 death toll was 3,300 TOTAL.
We maintained our constitution for over 200 years with the number of murders growing the whole time, and we didn't take that as a reason to torch our own constitution.
911 shouldn't have changed a damn thing. Yet it seems as if the Bush team has milked it to build the bedrock for a police state. Given their political donations come from the same private interests that profit from such draconian right wing lunacy, it looks like the Bush team staged it themselves, quite honestly.
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20Histor
Getting security "locked down" is the wrong answer. Getting the nazis out of office is the right answer.
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The US terror rate since (and before) 911 death toll was 3030. TOTAL.
you were making great points (Score:4, Insightful)
Your comments about the murder rate vs. terror rate and torching the constitution were strong.
You lost me with the conspiracy theory about the neocons planning 9/11. As much as I distrust Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their puppet, the theories about missles hitting the Pentagon just aren't credible to me. At most, I will believe that 9/11 was a happy accident [reference.com] which Cheney leveraged to enrich his friends at Haliburton. He sold it to Bush as an opportunity to finish what his dad had started. Rumsfeld? Well, that guy wanted to prove a war could be fought on the cheap and wanted to take credit for that accomplishment. Turned out it can be fought on the cheap, so long as you're not concerned with winning.
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the theories about missles hitting the Pentagon just aren't credible to me. At most, I will believe that 9/11 was a happy accident [reference.com]
I don't know about the missile story... on 9-11 it was a "car bomb", then a "truck bomb" that blew up at the pentagon after the plane hit in NY.
But I think it was at LEAST a happy accident, possibly something that was allowed to happen, and at my most cynical, I might think it was actually planned by the facists in government and more likely in the "intelligence community".
They predictably won so much power and funding as a result, it's hard not to think they would want it to happen.
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Man have you missed something! Haven't you seen the "video" released after some years by the fed
Yeah, I also saw the surveillance footage from the parking lot's security booth shown on TV some time after 9-11 (not years after, weeks I think), it showed very little and was dated 9-12.
I also remember, from that faithfull day, an announcer asking a follow up question: "a car bomb? Not a plane?" and the radio reporter answering "we're being told it was a truck bomb".
Then there was talk of an order to shoot down any planes not following directions to go land in Canada, and about two hours later a pentagon
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They predictably won so much power and funding as a result, it's hard not to think they would want it to happen.
Well, you can take it that far without just "thinking" it. We know with 100% certainty that they wanted it to happen, since they stated exactly that back in 2000. Just read "Rebuilding America's Defenses" here [newamericancentury.org].
They stated flat out that "in order to ensure American economic world domination in the 21st century" it would be necessary to invade Iraq. Further they said that they knew full well that th
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Re:you were making great points (Score:5, Insightful)
We accused Clinton of being a liar and Bush repeatedly lied about their being no domestic wire tapping program or secret prison Mr. Bush drove us to war on a lie. There were no weapons of mass destruction. While I do not like Cynthia McKinney from Georgia at all, she drove a point by attempting to introduce legislation to impeach Bush. Honestly, he is far more impeachable than Clinton. We hold ourselves up on such high, hypocritical horses that we punished Clinton for a blow job: a harmless, repeat harmless act whereas Mr. Bush has effectively killed 16,000 people because he wanted to finish daddy's work. Mr. Bush needs to answer for his actions but, so long as he has money, he has a get out of jail ticket. It would take the collective bravery of the International Criminal Court to bring charges down. I could only hope that the ICC is brave enough to take this on. Bush has committed war crimes under a guise.
Bush is an extremeist in his own right. He is the antithesis of Ahmadenjinad of Iran. It has been speculated that Bush has some fascination with the Apocalypse and the Born-Again Christians do have a preocupation with this event. Clinton got some undeserved negative attention. He did wonders for the economy. The presidency requires an intelligent, well-thought, and well-spoken indidivdual.
Some have attempted to compare Bush to Lincoln. True, both were in unpopular wars and both rather folksy. There remains an important difference. Lincoln was not ideologically driven and he was doing what was morally correct for ANY time period: ending a wrong justified by pseudoscientific means. Lincoln saw the problems with calling our nation free while slavery still existed. This was a moral and ethical dilemna. Lincoln dealt with this. While Lincoln is folksy, it is clear that his intelligence and thought capacity is higher than that of Bush. As far as I am concerned there is no comparison and history will see the George W. Bush Presidency as one of the worst administrations in the history of our country.
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Re:you were making great points (Score:5, Insightful)
I am european, and I have always thought as the US as the country wher edemocracy was strong - today I am not traveling to the US because I refuse to deal with terrorist nations, and unless the us government gets some sort of clue what country they re supposed to govern, the US is just not a place I want to step on even for a day.
Let's all hope that things change once Mr. Bush is out of his office. The uss has dealt with horrendous aberrations in the past (just say McCarthy Era) and recovered.
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Lincoln was not ideologically driven and he was doing what was morally correct for ANY time period:
You think so? There was more to the Civil war than slavery you know. In fact there was tension between the federalists and states rights folks for some time. Many in the south saw/see the Civil war as a federal power grab by the north and believe Lincoln just used slavery as an excuse (a good one mind you, but a red herring none-the-less).
In fact, Lincoln and GWB have something else in common. GWB ran
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So don't go about dissing them.
If they weren't there, your rights which you inherited because some lame ass-kicking horse jockey fought on your behalf and ACTUALLY died for it.
Sheesh, how many times do we have to tell these mid fencers that having a friday romp and a sunday shopping deal is NOT freedom.
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911 shouldn't have changed a damn thing. Yet it seems as if the Bush team has milked it to build the bedrock for a police state. Given their political donations come from the same private interests that profit from such draconian right wing lunacy, it looks like the Bush team staged it themselves, quite honestly.
Maybe they did, I guess we'll never really know, since by definition the people capable of that are capable of killing to cover it up.
But even if they didn't explicitly plan it, Ossama was trained, funded and armed by the CIA, back when the Taliban were labelled "freedom fighters" (is that like "freedom fries"?), what goes around comes around.
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the city of Chicago, Illinois, USA doesn't allow handguns. Even if you interpret the US Constitution as not allowing each individual person to own guns (as groups like the American Civil Liberties Union do) the Illinois State Constitution http://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con1.htm/ [ilga.gov] explicitly provides for that, leaving little if any room for such interpretation.
Handguns. What about hunting rifles?
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There was never any reason NOT to handle it through our court system. I DO frame it as if it should have been handled in a different way. I frame it as if the president and his entire cabinet should have been investigated, impeached, and probably tried for treason.
When in reality it was an extremely large entity attacking our country, not just singular persons. So terroris
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Fighting a war against an invisible enemy, and using that as a justification for searching everyone who passes through an airport, train station, you name it, already encroaches on basic civil liberties.
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The number of murders per year climbs over time (but not necessarily constantly; sometimes it drops, too) and that means we should torch the constitution?
No, it means that since 9/11 did less damage to us than we regularly do to ourselves, we shouldn't use either as an excuse to destroy our civil liberties.
I've always compared it to the death toll from traffic accidents (which exceeds the 9/11 death toll every *month*), but I like the murder comparison even better.
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The response should have been an investigation, and a change in hijacker handling policy (previous policy was to just give them what they wanted) and a "cockpit door stays locked at all times" policy. And then we should have started flying again the next week, with EXACTLY the same airport security as before.
Everything that was done by the government was instead calculated to terrorize the population, as a
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The third WTC building on 911 collapsed without ANYTHING touching it. It just collapsed straight down as if it had been demolished. They even abandoned it first. It was UNDAMAGED until it collapsed.
The HOLE in the pentagon was not large enough for the plane that struck.
The jet fuel of an airliner doesn't burn hot enough to melt the structural steel that was used in the WTC buildings. Yet they found
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You're waaaay behind the times, buddy.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/av.caesar/wtc/wtc7_2.jpg [kolumbus.fi]
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3990/wtc7roof7p z.jpg [imageshack.us]
It well known by people on the ground that WTC7 was going to collapse.
Here's some accounts from firefighters [bautforum.com] on the scene that day. They describe the severe structural damag
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The lease holder [cbsnews.com] gave the OK to "pull it [youtube.com]".
I didn't know you could do that. Can just any building be "pulled", just like that?
("Silverstein's spokesperson, Dara McQuillan, said in September 2005 that by "pull it" Silverstein was referring to the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building, and confirming that they should evacuate the premises."
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"Pull it" is not a term for explosive demolition. No where, no how, no matter how many times the conspiracy theorists say it is (none of them are demolitions experts). The owner of Controlled Demolitions, Inc. has written a short paper about WTC7 (don't have a link at the moment, getting ready to leave for the holiday).
"Pull it" means to literally pull the building over with cables or
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"Pull it" is not a term for explosive demolition. No where, no how, no matter how many times the conspiracy theorists say it is (none of them are demolitions experts). The owner of Controlled Demolitions, Inc. has written a short paper about WTC7 (don't have a link at the moment, getting ready to leave for the holiday).
"Pull it" means to literally pull the building over with cables or the like. You don't do that to a 47 story building.
Larry Silverstein is not a demolition expert.
He's an old real estate tycoon. You kids and your fancy demolition talk. Why, in my day! Get off my lawn! We had to walk to work in snow, and when you wanted your building pulled down, you said to pull it! I said get off my lawn!
I read your page carefully, it's crap. Their interpretation of "pull it" isn't even the one I quoted from Larry's spin doctor (their definition of "it" is "a unit of firefighters").
That site you linked makes it sound like Larry's referri
Take the train. (Score:4, Interesting)
What is going to make your life suck first? (Score:2, Insightful)
that the information is already available to anyone who
wants to buy it. Anyone foriegn or domestic regardless
of criminal record can buy data right? That TSA got what
everyone else can access seems a small thing.
What are the greatest threats? Which of these will most likely get you?
National Debt
Trade Inequity
Job Exportation
Oil Dependence / Oil exaustion
Terrorist Attack
Government Intrusion
False Inprisonment
Identity Theft
Neocons
Pinko Liberals
Automated
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If you think this sort of things dont happen in european states, your wrong. Were just better at keeping it quiet.
Heard a great line on any questions today (A BBC Radio 4 comedy quiz show):
The americans had a revolution because they were sick of being told what to do from London.
Boy did THEY manage to turn things around.
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